Rebirth Salad Days

Rebirth Era (Post-“Superman Reborn”) Chronology[1][2]





–FLASHBACK: From All-Star Batman #11—and also referenced in Flash Vol. 5 #21, Batman Vol. 3 #22, and Deathstroke Vol. 4 #30, Batman Vol. 3 #53, The Batman Who Laughs #1-3, Detective Comics #1000 Part 6, and Legends of the Dark Knight Vol. 2 #10 (Legends of the Dark Knight Vol. 2 Print Edition #5).[3] October 7.[4][5] Bruce Wayne is born to billionaires Dr. Thomas Wayne and Martha Wayne in Gotham City. Thomas is a gifted medical surgeon (non-specialized general surgery). Both he and Martha run Wayne Enterprises (formerly known as Wayne Company), a mega-conglomerate that deals in almost everything. (Via its subsidiaries WayneTech and Wayne Industries, Wayne Enterprises—as the parent corporation—has controlling interests in finance, manufacturing, energy, aerospace engineering, airlines, tech, R&D, real estate, healthcare, pharmaceuticals, and hospitality. WayneTech owns hotels, factories, refineries, hospitals, and chemical plants all over the world. Via its subsidiary known as The Thomas and Martha Wayne Foundation, Wayne Enterprises is involved in charity, medical care, philanthropy, and social activism.) Bruce is cared for by the Waynes and their trusted butler Jarvis Pennyworth at the palatial Wayne Manor Estate, located in the secluded Crest Hill neighborhood of Bristol Township, in the outskirts of Gotham City. Bruce, like his father before him, will be raised Christian, and go to church every week, beginning now, as a baby. Note that Martha, who is not religious, will never attend church with them.[6] All-Star Batman #11 seems to place Bruce’s birth shortly before the Falklands War. This is vague, implying he could have been born between 1980 and 1982. The Batman Who Laughs #1 confirms that, by the year 2019, Bruce is either in his late 30s or early 40s. In order to give enough room for his eventual training, it makes sense to go with the earlier birthdate.

–REFERENCE: In Detective Comics #1029. October. New parents Thomas and Martha Wayne pose for a picture with their newborn baby Bruce.




–REFERENCE: In Batman Vol. 3 #83. Jarvis’ polymathic son Alfred Pennyworth—a soldier, MI6 secret agent, theater actor, mechanic, and gourmet chef—visits him in the States, meeting the Waynes. Alfred is present when baby Bruce takes his first steps, walking right into Alfred’s arms.

–REFERENCE: In Detective Comics #1018. December. Baby Bruce attends his first Annual Wayne Foundation Christmas Tree Lighting Celebration, during which his mom and dad perform ceremonial duties. Bruce will attend every tree lighting for many years to come, and as he gets older he will come to love the experience of attending very deeply. We won’t see these celebrations on our timeline ahead, but we can imagine them happening joyously for years to come every December ahead (at least until tragedy befalls the Wayne Family).




–REFERENCE: In Batman Vol. 3 #74Batman Vol. 3 Annual #4, and Batman Vol. 3 #83. A cosseted Bruce enters toddlerhood by developing into a timorous, timid little boy—quiet in nature, afraid of the dark, and terrified of scary stories. Like his mother, the sullen Bruce will act very cautious when in public. He will retain all of these traits well into adolescence. When alone with family at home, though, Bruce will always come out of his shell a bit more, having the capability to be very smiley, happy, and filled with joy and curiosity alike.




–REFERENCE: In All-Star Batman #11, Dark Nights: Metal #2, and Batman: Lost #1. October—Bruce has recently turned three-years-old. The centuries-old illuminati group known as The Court of Owls causes Jarvis Pennyworth to get into a car accident while transporting a pregnant Martha Wayne. Both Jarvis and Martha survive the crash, but Martha loses the baby, whom she was going to name Thomas Wayne Jr. (Super-villain Lincoln March will later claim that he is Thomas Wayne Jr, having actually survived and lived a secret life away from the Waynes at Willowwood Asylum. Of course, there is no way of verifying whether or not March’s claims are true. All we know is that Martha was pregnant and got in a crash—and there was no baby to speak of following the tragic incident.) Note that the Court of Owls involved in Jarvis and Martha’s accident is merely the local Gotham chapter of the greater international network known as The Parliament of Owls. Within the Parliament of Owls there are many Courts (including The Court of Eagles) located in major cities across the globe. Also note that the Parliament/Court of Owls is the contemporary evolution of what was once known as The Judas Tribe, an ancient Hath-Set-worshipping cult. The Judas Tribe still exists in the form of a handful of semi-immortal high priests, collectively known as The Strigydae, who work for and worship Barbatos—demon god of the Dark Multiverse.[7] (The Dark Multiverse is the evil mirror version of the local Multiverse, containing various Negative Universes within.) The Judas Tribe itself has origins connected to the Hath-Set-led Bat Tribe, which existed as far back as 3300 BCE and was an evolution of the Miagani Tribe, which formed as a direct result of a time-displaced Batman appearing in 38,000 BCE. Barbatos has been waiting since 38,000 BCE for the birth of Bruce Wayne, whom he knows will one day become Batman. Barbatos has carefully guided his minions—first the Bat Tribe, then Judas Tribe/Strigydae, then Parliament/Court of Owls—for over 40,000 years, manipulating certain events while biding his time. Ever since the Parliament/Court of Owls’ inception, Barbatos has been orchestrating their every move. Now that Bruce is a toddler, Barbatos and his minions secretly watch the child from the shadows. The Strigydae—in league with the Court of Owls—hope to eventually initiate their “Mantling” ritual upon an adult Bruce to achieve Barbatos’ very nefarious goals in the future. These villains will continue to monitor and sometimes manipulate certain aspects of Bruce’s life, moving forward on our timeline—although, these actions won’t be specifically listed. We’ll get into more details of Barbatos’ plan much further down the line.

–REFERENCE: In Batman Vol. 3 Annual #4. Young Bruce learns to ski. He will ski on-and-off as a hobby, moving forward, and will become highly skilled at skiing by the time he reaches adulthood.




–REFERENCE: In Batman Vol. 3 #23Detective Comics #983, Batman Vol. 3 #85, Batman Vol. 3 #92, Robin 80th Anniversary 100-Page Spectacular Part 10, and Batman: Black and White Vol. 5 #5 Part 5.  A young Bruce poses with his parents for a series of professional photographs and painted portraits, both with his family and solo. Most of these get framed, and Bruce will keep and cherish all of them long into adulthood.

–FLASHBACK: In Batman Vol. 3 #29—and also referenced in Batman Vol. 3 #29. Martha Wayne tells Bruce, “When all is lost, have dinner—a traditional nine course French dinner.” (Jarvis is a culinary master that can deliver such a dinner.) Martha’s staid motto is that the Art of Eating, when done right, can save one’s soul. Young Bruce scoffs at this seemingly ridiculous bourgeois ideology, but a nine course French dinner is had nevertheless. And wouldn’t you know it? After fancily filling his belly, Bruce will feel tip-top. Moving forward on our timeline, Bruce will often roll eyes at his mom’s haute-cuisine-solves-everything mantra, but, he will find comfort in his mom’s idea, the food, and company kept in the years to come.

–FLASHBACK: From All-Star Batman #14—and also referenced in All-Star Batman #11-14, Batman Vol. 3 #29, Dark Nights: Metal #2, Super Sons #10 Part 2, Batman & The Signal #2, Detective Comics #994, The Batman Who Laughs #1, and Batman Vol. 3 Annual #4. October. Jarvis Pennyworth dies under mysterious circumstances. (The Court of Owls has secretly assassinated him.) Shortly thereafter, Jarvis’ son Alfred Pennyworth, having quit the army and left MI6, moves into Wayne Manor to replace his father as butler of the estate. Alfred is the quintessential courtly butler, a consummate professional when it comes to maintaining a wealthy estate. With the ring of a bell, he will always come post-haste, eager to serve his “masters.” Upon moving into Wayne Manor, Alfred meets a four-year-old Bruce. (Alfred technically met Bruce once before when Bruce was not even a year old yet.) Like his pop before him, Alfred will care-for and help raise Bruce, who will trustingly confide in Alfred every aspect of his life, moving forward. Alfred will also continue his father’s work by cooking nine-course French dinners for the Waynes and various party guests. (Alfred will continue to, on occasion, cook nine course French meals for Bruce long into his adulthood.) Alfred’s moral code and values (and his ardor for dramaturgical arts) will rub off on young Bruce over the years. (NOTES: According to panels in Scott Snyder’s All-Star Batman #11 and Peter Tomasi’s Detective Comics #1030, Alfred is twenty-two years older than Bruce. Also, Snyder originally implies—in 2017’s All-Star Batman #12—that Alfred joins the Waynes when Bruce is seven or eight-years-old, yet the author contradicts himself in 2018’s The Batman Who Laughs #1, telling us that Alfred is already around when Bruce is four-years-old. I guess go with the latter. I dunno. Whatever.)

–REFERENCE: In Let Them Live! Unpublished Tales From the DC Vault #3. Late October—Halloween weekend. While Bruce has learned about fine dining from his mom, she hasn’t exactly instilled a healthy attitude when it comes to enjoying junk every once in a while. In fact, little Bruce gets influenced by his mom’s overbearing culinary concepts that it causes him to become obsessed, finicky, and singleminded in regard to nutrition—so much so that he’ll often deprive himself of sweets and sugar, moving forward. On Halloween, poor Bruce begins what will be a very sad yearly tradition of eating one piece of candy in the silent solitude of his darkened closet. We won’t see this annual habit ahead on our timeline, but we can imagine it occurring every pre-adult Hallow’s Eve onward. Let Them Live! #3 also tells us that, in spite of this quiet candy-champing quirk, Bruce celebrates every Halloween in costume, but he will stop once his parents are killed.

–REFERENCE: In Nightwing Vol. 4 #29 and Batman: Three Jokers #1. Thomas Wayne wears a bat-costume at a Wayne Manor masquerade ball. The costume leaves quite an impression upon young Bruce. During the party, bullet-riddled gangster Lew Moxon shows up, begging Dr. Wayne for help. (Moxon is the head of the notorious Moxon Mob crime family.) Bruce’s father expertly saves Moxon’s life, but immediately sells him out to the cops.

–REFERENCE: In Batman Vol. 3 #83. Bruce plays Cops and Robbers with Alfred. They will play this game often, moving forward. Bruce will always choose to play the role of the robber. And Alfred will always indulge little Bruce, playing with him for hours upon hours at a time.

–FLASHBACK: From Batman: Black and White Vol. 5 # 4 Part 4. Alfred teaches Bruce how to play chess. While unseen on our timeline ahead, they will play quite often.




–REFERENCE: In Batman: Three Jokers #1. The Waynes found the Gotham Aquarium. Bruce visits the new aquarium. He will visit the aquarium often, although we’ll simply have to imagine those trips below.

–REFERENCE: In Batman: The World Part 3. Bruce jokingly flexes his muscles while posing for a picture with his parents. The photo gets developed and will remain with Bruce as a prized possession long into his adulthood.

–FLASHBACK: From Batman Vol. 3 #53. Bruce, as he’s always done, attends Sunday church with his dad. His dad tells him all the stories of the Bible and will continue to do so, moving forward.

–REFERENCE: In Detective Comics Annual #2 (2019).[8] A murderous costumed vigilante known as The Reaper makes his presence known in Gotham, violently killing criminals left-and-right. Bruce’s dad, who loathes the Reaper, tells him all the news stories and rumors surrounding the skull-faced vigilante, scaring Bruce to no end.  Bruce will hear countless stories about the the Reaper until the Reaper’s retirement a few years from now. Unknown to all, the Reaper is Judson Caspian, an old family acquaintance of Thomas Wayne’s whose wife has just recently been murdered. Bruce meets Judson and his young daughter Rachel Caspian for the first time. Bruce will have moderate interactions with Judson and Rachel until they move to Europe in a few years’ time.

–FLASHBACK: From The Batman Who Laughs #1. Summer. A jovial four-year-old Bruce plays with mom, dad, and Alfred on the front lawn of Wayne Manor. Bruce will cherish this memory for the rest of his life, eventually recalling it as his first ever childhood memory.

–REFERENCE: In The Batman Who Laughs #3. Bruce’s dad tells him how he always really wanted to be a neurosurgeon but wound up going into general surgery instead. Despite this, Thomas has always been intrigued by neuro-medicine. Thomas tells Bruce it can’t be a coincidence that the same part of the brain that conceives visual planning is also responsible for making us feel content.

–FLASHBACK: From Batman Vol. 3 #57 and Batman: Urban Legends #8 Part 1—and referenced in Batman Vol. 3 #74Batman Vol. 3 Annual #4, and Batman Vol. 3 #85. Thomas begins a nightly routine of reading to Bruce before bedtime (mostly fairy tales), after which Bruce snuggles up with his favorite stuffed animals and goes to sleep. Sometimes Thomas, as most fathers do, will sit with Bruce until he slumbers. Bruce especially loves stories that feature horses. However, Bruce’s favorite is “The Animals and the Pit,” a grim-dark Russian folk-tale by Alexander Afanasyev. Despite the dark nature of this tale, Bruce will often ask his dad to read him this story before bedtime. Bruce will often scream and cry for his father to read and re-read this story at night. Even when Bruce falls asleep, sometimes in his father’s lap, if he wakes, he will scream and cry for the story to be read. The reason little Bruce feels a need to hear this horror story over and over is because he, deep down, hopes that his dad will make up a happy ending. But of course, Thomas doesn’t know this, and never will.

–REFERENCE: In The Batman Who Laughs #4-5. Bruce rides the Gotham subway with his dad. Before they board, Thomas tells Bruce all about the transit system, the subway tokens, and the history of Gotham, specifically about the Native American tribes of the Miagani that first settled the area. There is an old Miagani saying about happiness as “seeing the world through the eyes of children.” This saying, which is even written in latin on Gotham’s subway tokens, will resonate with Bruce for the rest of his life.

–FLASHBACK: From Detective Comics #1017. Thomas and Martha Wayne enter into new humanist ventures across the city and adjacent areas, specifically opening new Wayne Enterprises-sponsored orphanages. Bruce accompanies his mom to several openings, but Bruce hates going, citing that the orphans make him sad. After a chat with mom, Bruce joins his parents for the opening of the Martha Wayne Orphanage. Through his mom’s eyes, Bruce is able to see things from a more positive perspective.

–REFERENCE: In Dark Nights: Death Metal #1. Thomas takes Bruce to visit a local park. They will go there often, moving forward (which we will have to imagine on our timeline below). Bruce learns to play baseball and how to ride a bike in the park. Thomas tells Bruce that the park is the site of a famous Revolutionary War conflict between British troops and American freedom fighters known as The Dead Bats. After a long and drawn-out battle, the Dead Bats were slaughtered and buried in shallow graves in what is now the site of the park.

–FLASHBACK: From Batman Vol. 3 #22 and The Batman Who Laughs #3. Bruce falls into a cave filled with bats underneath the Wayne Manor grounds. (This cave, of course, will one day become the Batcave.) Thomas rescues Bruce by lowering down a rope and offering words of encouragement, telling his son to visualize himself climbing out so he won’t be scared. From this moment onward, Bruce begins thinking of his dad’s views on planning, happiness, and self-visualization. He begins applying these concepts to his own actions. These concepts, especially the planning part, will resonate with Bruce for the rest of his life.

–REFERENCE: In Detective Comics #961. Bruce meets Dr. Leslie Thompkins, who will remain a close friend for decades and become a mother-figure to him.

–REFERENCE: In Batman: Kings of Fear #4. A smiling Bruce plays with his dad and rides on his shoulders.

–REFERENCE: In Detective Comics #1027 Part 12. October 6-7. Bruce celebrates his fifth birthday. Alfred sets out his presents the night prior to his actual birthday, but Thomas and Martha tell Bruce he isn’t allowed to touch them until the sun comes up the next morning. This tradition, including the opening-gifts-at-sun-up rule, will carry forward for years to come. We won’t include all of Bruce’s birthdays on our timeline ahead (only certain ones), but he’ll definitely celebrate every year.

–REFERENCE: In The Brave and The Bold: Batman and Wonder Woman #3-5 and New Year’s Evil #1 Part 7. Bruce gets an Irish nanny named Dora, who will work for the Waynes for a short while. She will tell Bruce many Irish and Scottish folktales, fairytales, and myths, and tell him all about the cantrips of the Faerie Folk. Bruce also learns about some Irish-American history, specifically about an eccentric Gaelic cult—known as “The Gotham Druids”—that existed in Gotham years ago.

–REFERENCE: In Detective Comics #959. While Bruce’s dad finishes a late shift, Bruce’s mom takes Bruce to the top of the hospital. She gives him words of inspiration and shows him the city lights from high above, noting each visible neighborhood. For the next few years, Martha will often take Bruce atop the hospital (although we’ll have to imagine these occurrences scattered invisibly below). Young Bruce will familiarize himself with the location, look, and vibe of many Gotham neighborhoods, growing to truly love the city in which he resides.

–REFERENCE: In Detective Comics #982. A new subway line is planned in Gotham, but due to bureaucratic red tape it will never get finished. Bruce, despite being a young boy, will pay attention to this infrastructural failure with keen interest. For the rest of his life, Bruce will be very interested in urban planning, transportation, and all things city-related in this vein.




–FLASHBACK: From Let Them Live! Unpublished Tales From the DC Vault #3—and referenced in Let Them Live! Unpublished Tales From the DC Vault #3. Five-year-old Bruce visits the Willoughby Z Tchalgadjieff Antiquarian Library for the first time, instantly falling in love with the place and the staff. He will visit the Tchalgadjieff Antiquarian Library quite often, moving forward. In fact, Bruce will go to the library almost every single evening after school to read anything he can get his hands upon (and when he is a bit older, to do his homework). Bruce will learn a lot about Gotham’s history from items in the library. His favorites in the collection are a 16th century illustrated Latin text about bats and a 17th century anatomy manuscript, both of which he will peruse with endless fascination. Bruce also becomes aware of and learns about the library’s grotesque collection of anthropodermic bibliopegy—books bound in human skin. Bruce also quickly meets the library’s many interesting patrons and employees, including bookbinder CJ Greenwood, librarian Mrs. Hostetler, and librarian Carl Székely. Székely dazzles Bruce’s imagination by telling him about his private collection—a sheaf of letters written by famous serial killers. Despite having a generally pusillanimous temperament, Bruce begs Székely to see the letters, and will beg for the next ten years, to no avail. We’ll have to simply imagine Bruce’s near daily visits to the fantastic library, moving forward.

–FLASHBACK: From Detective Comics #1033—and referenced in All-Star Batman #10, All-Star Batman #13, Batman: Prelude to the Wedding Part 2 – Nightwing vs Hush #1, and Detective Comics #1032-1033. Being the only kid not intimidated by the Wayne fortune (due to his own family’s vast fortune), young Tommy Elliot approaches Bruce in school and befriends him. (Tommy’s mom and dad are famous but troubled Gotham couple, Roger Elliot and Marla Elliot.) Bruce and Tommy quickly become best friends, hanging out often at Wayne Manor where the boys bond over their shared interest of strategy board games. (Detective Comics #1032 shows a framed photo of Bruce and Tommy hanging out from around this era.) The Elliot and Wayne families begin spending time together as well. Bruce also accompanies Tommy and his family to the Elliots’ beach house in the Florida Keys. Sadly, Bruce watches as a deep rage grows within Tommy, who hates his neglectful parents and begins to jealously resent Bruce for having such a loving mom and dad. Eventually, with confused hate in his heart, the unhinged Tommy secretly severs the brake line of his parents’ car, causing an accident that kills his father and permanently injures his mother. (Thomas is able to perform life-saving surgery on Marla, although she is left paralyzed from the waist down.) Bruce likely attends Roger’s funeral.

–FLASHBACK: From Detective Comics #1027 Part 12. October 6-7. Bruce’s sixth birthday is upon us. Alfred, as he does every year, sets out Bruce’s presents the night before his actual birthday. Bruce, as per his father’s rule, isn’t allowed to touch them until morning comes. However, naughty little Bruce can’t help himself. At 3 AM, he sneaks downstairs to open one of his gifts—a book called The Guide to Amazing Adventures for Young Men. In the morning, Bruce’s parents scold him. Thomas teaches his son a valuable lesson about not taking anything for granted, telling Bruce that “there’s nothing a man has that can’t be taken away.” Martha later tells Bruce that she got him the Guide to Amazing Adventures book because she thinks he “needs to get out more.”

–REFERENCE: In Detective Comics #958-960. Bruce goes on unspecified travels with his parents, during which time he befriends young Zatanna Zatara, daughter of stage magician (and secret legit magick user) John Zatara, who is on tour. Bruce will hang with the Zataras every so often (although invisibly on our timeline), moving forward. Note that these hangouts will not be in Gotham—we are not told the details of where Bruce and Zatanna see each other, but we can presume that they see each other in random cities where the Zataras are on tour.




–REFERENCE: In All-Star Batman #14 and Detective Comics #1027 Part 5. Bruce sees a Zorro movie and becomes obsessed. His parents purchase a Zorro costume and toy sword, which Bruce will wear and play with quite often. Bruce also gets Zorro toys and hangs a Zorro poster in his bedroom.

–REFERENCE: In Adventures of the Super Sons #9. Bruce takes a liking to classic film Westerns, which is certainly in-line with his love of Zorro and horses. As a result, Bruce’s favorite actor, long into adulthood, will be Gary Cooper. Bruce will be a cinephile, in general, for the rest of his life.

–FLASHBACK: From Legends of the Dark Knight Vol. 2 #15 (Legends of the Dark Knight Vol. 2 Print Edition #8). Bruce plays with Alfred, sword-dueling him in one of the Wayne Manor living rooms.

–REFERENCE: In Batman Vol. 3 #95 and Batman: Three Jokers #1. Thomas Wayne takes his son Bruce to one of his favorite repertory cinema houses, the Monarch Theater—located in Gotham’s Park Row District. Bruce and his dad will visit the theater regularly, becoming acquainted with its unnamed owner and doorman Stanley. (We’ll only see one final tragic night at this theater on our Salad Days section ahead, but we should imagine plenty of happy evenings at the Monarch for Bruce and his dad, sprinkled invisibly throughout the next few years.)

–REFERENCE: In Batman Vol. 3 #44Batman Vol. 3 Annual #4, and Detective Comics #1030. Bruce begins riding horses. Alfred teaches him how to ride. At first, Bruce is terrified of the intimidating steed, even going so far as to cry in fear. But Alfred helps guide him past his trepidation. Bruce chooses what will become his favorite horse. Bruce will become an expert equestrian in the future.

–FLASHBACK: From Legends of the Dark Knight Vol. 2 #15 (Legends of the Dark Knight Vol. 2 Print Edition #8). Bruce watches TV while Alfred reads a book.




–REFERENCE: In Detective Comics #975 and Detective Comics #978. Bruce’s uncle (US Army Colonel Jacob “Jake” Kane) and aunt (Gabrielle “Gabi” Kane) give birth to twin girls (Katherine Rebecca “Kate” Kane and Elizabeth “Beth” Kane). Young Bruce is introduced to his baby cousins. Over the years to follow, especially as the twins grow older, Bruce will spend some time with Kate and Beth. However, the rest of Martha’s Kane clan, including Jake and Gabi, have long been estranged from the Waynes. This will severely limit the amount of time Bruce spends with his cousins, aunt, and uncle. Thus, he won’t get to know them super well. (Jake, Gabi, and the girls will soon move to Brussels, Belgium, only adding to the estrangement.) Notably, Martha is completely estranged from her other brothers Nathan Kane and Philip Kane (also sometimes spelled “Phillip”). Due to the nature of the estrangement, Bruce will rarely interact with his uncles and won’t get to know them very well. Furthermore, Bruce will only meet his grandparents on the Kane side of the family, Elizabeth “Betsy” Kane and Roderick Kane, at his parents’ funeral.

–REFERENCE: In Batman Vol. 3 Annual #3. Bruce’s mom or dad snaps a picture of Alfred playing with Bruce. Alfred will frame this picture and keep it for decades to come.

–REFERENCE: In Batman Vol. 3 #36, Batman Vol. 3 #54, and Detective Comics #993. Alfred, in addition to cooking gourmet meals, begins making his specialty snack—mini cucumber sandwiches—for the Waynes. At first Bruce refuses to eat the sandwiches, but his dad, who loves them, tells him to give them a try. Reluctantly, Bruce tries them and thinks they are disgusting. Despite this, Alfred will make these sandwiches for Bruce every week. Bruce will soon grow to love them and will eat them (with the crusts cut off) long into his adulthood.

–REFERENCE: In Deathstroke Vol. 4 #31. Bruce poses for another family photograph with his mom and dad. This photo, developed and framed, will stay in Bruce’s possession for the rest of his life.

–REFERENCE: In Batman Vol. 3 #68 and Detective Comics #1027 Part 7. Bruce learns the detailed history of his family tree, including the histories of each ancestor’s portraits hung up in Wayne Manor. Bruce’s parents also tell him who painted each portrait. Bruce gains an intimate knowledge of all the familial ephemera in the stately mansion. He also learns about his grandfather’s (Patrick Wayne’s) Odyssey venture, a project that collected famous objets d’art in the late 1930s in an effort to protect them from falling into Nazi hands. The works were stored on a liner called Odyssey, which sunk under mysterious circumstances in 1937. The disappearance of the Odyssey has always been and continues to remain one of history’s greatest mysteries. Thomas and Martha continue to fund yearly salvage missions in an effort to find the sunken ship and the lost artistic treasures. Wayne Enterprises will run these yearly salvage missions long into Bruce’s adulthood.

–REFERENCE: In Detective Comics #1027 Part 7. Bruce watches and becomes a fan of private-eye Roy Raymond‘s TV show Impossible But True.

–REFERENCE: In Detective Comics #1027 Part 5. Bruce learns how to golf.

–FLASHBACK: From Detective Comics #1027 Part 5. Bruce begins watching scary movies with his dad, which results in him having nightmares. After a particularly spooky flick, Bruce has trouble sleeping, so his mom comforts him. Bruce asks if ghosts are real, to which Martha gives a very motherly answer.

–FLASHBACK: From Detective Comics 2021 Annual. Bruce goes out for ice cream with his mom and dad. Afterward, the Waynes are attacked by a disturbed man named Peter Faust, who has just killed two people a nearby clinic. When Faust’s arm is severed by broken glass, Thomas does all he can to save his life. Bruce waits up all night for his dad to come back home. Thomas tells Bruce that he saved Faust because it’s his job to save all lives, no matter who they are. The next day, Thomas visits Faust at the hospital. Bruce meets Faust’s young son, Pete Faust Jr. Shortly afterward, Faust escapes from his hospital bed and kills two more people before being caught and jailed in Arkham Asylum.

–REFERENCE: In All-Star Batman #12. October. Recently turned eight-year-old Bruce sees a show about spelunking and attempts to imitate by rope-ascending to the ceiling and then rappelling down from a chandelier. This results in a bad scapular injury that will leave a permanent scar and require weeks of bedrest. During this time, Alfred reads to Bruce Robinson Crusoe, which the boy comes to love (except for the ending). Note that this item incorrectly says that Alfred has just moved in with the Waynes.

–FLASHBACK: From Year of the Villain: Black Mask #1. Thomas and Martha Wayne befriend the owners of Janus Cosmetics, husband and wife Richard Sionis and Mrs. Sionis. The Sionises have a son, Roman Sionis, who is around Bruce’s age. Bruce and Roman become quick friends, hanging out on several occasions when their parents’ spend time together. On one of their hangouts, a troubled Roman (who is secretly being abused by his parents) shows off his mask collection to Bruce.

–FLASHBACK: From Batman/Superman Vol. 2 #15—and referenced in Batman/Superman Vol. 2 #15. Winter. With a big snowstorm raging outside, Bruce wants to go out and play, but Alfred refuses to let him, citing that the boy has studies of which to attend. Alfred also tells Bruce that he doesn’t want to go out in the snow for fear of getting his butler tuxedo wet.



From Let Them Live! Unpublished Tales From the DC Vault #3. Bruce again visits the Willoughby Z Tchalgadjieff Antiquarian Library.

–REFERENCE: In Detective Comics #1041. Bruce’s father tells him, “The real monsters of the world are men without reason, men who only know the truth, men who only see one answer.” This exemplum will stick with Bruce long into his adulthood.

–REFERENCE: In Detective Comics #987. Bruce watches his parents lovingly embrace one another. His mom wears her favorite pearl necklace.

–FLASHBACK: From Trinity Vol. 2 #16, Doomsday Clock #2, Deathstroke Vol. 4 #31, Batman Vol. 3 #47, Batman Vol. 3 #53, Suicide Squad Vol. 5 #43, Batman Giant #1, Batman Vol. 3 Annual #3, Batman Vol. 3 #97, Detective Comics #994-995, Detective Comics #1000 Part 5, Batman/Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles III #3, Dial H for Hero #5, Year of the Villain: Black Mask #1, Batman: Pennyworth RIP #1, Batman: Three Jokers #1-2, Batman: Black and White Vol. 5 #1 Part 2, Dark Nights: Death Metal – The Multiverse Who Laughs #1 Part 1, Batman Vol. 3 Annual #5, and Are You Afraid of Darkseid? #1—and also referenced in Flash Vol. 5 #21-22, All-Star Batman #10, Batman Vol. 3 #24, Batman Vol. 3 #45, Batman Vol. 3 #52, Batman Vol. 3 #63, Batman Vol. 3 #96, Batman Vol. 3 Annual #2 Part 1 ConclusionBatman Beyond Vol. 8 #7,[9] Detective Comics #975, Detective Comics #984-987, Detective Comics #994-995, Detective Comics Annual #2 (2019), Batman: Kings of Fear #2-4, The Batman Who Laughs #2, Batman and The Outsiders Vol. 3 #4, Batman/Superman Vol. 2 #1, Justice League Vol. 4 #51-52, Batman: Three Jokers #1-3, Nightwing Vol. 4 #78, Legends of the Dark Knight Vol. 2 #16 (Legends of the Dark Knight Vol. 2 Print Edition #8), Gotham City Villains: 100-Page Anniversary Giant #1 Part 2, and Batman: The Knight #1 Part 2. Early September.[10] Eight-year-old Bruce’s parents are brutally murdered.[11] This iconic moment will forever traumatize the boy and eventually shape the justice-fueled vigilantism of his eventual costumed alter-ego. Thanks to Rebirth Era ridiculousness, however, the story isn’t as cut and dry as it once was. Here’s our synopsis. Thomas and Martha Wayne take Bruce to see the 1940 film The Mark of Zorro at the Monarch Theater (also spelled “Theatre”) on Park Row. (Note that Trinity Vol. 2 #16 incorrectly, anachronistically, and hilariously shows The MASK of Zorro on the marquee instead.) As the movie nears its climax, several time-travelers—Booster Gold, Skeets (who immediately gets destroyed), and an adult “Bat-point” Bruce Wayne—arrive atop the theater’s roof from the alternate “Bat-point timeline” future. Booster, hoping to restore the correct timeline, has to undo a past mistake in which he previously went back in time and saved the Waynes from being murdered. (You just can’t mess with time like that. The Waynes, unfortunately, must die.) As the original Booster and Skeets arrive, the former is accidentally gunned to death by Bat-point Bruce. The Waynes, leaving the cinema below, only decide to go down a dark Park Row alley because they hear the gunfire above and are trying to avoid it. This, of course, leads them directly to smalltime crook Joe Chill, who murders Thomas and Martha before young Bruce’s horrified eyes. Chill immediately goes on the lam. For the rest of his life, Bruce will be able to recall, in great detail, every moment of this horrific moment. From the roof above, Bat-point Bruce also watches the murder of his parents as it unfolds before his younger self. Distraught, Bat-point Bruce commits suicide. With the timeline rebooted to its correct state—with Thomas and Martha dying on what will come to be known as Crime Alley—Booster Gold and Skeets return to the future, hauling with them the time-anomalous corpses from the rooftop. A shell-shocked Bruce takes a pearl from his mother’s necklace, which Chill was trying to steal. Bruce will keep this pearl, regarding it as priceless, long into adulthood. Both Leslie Thompkins and Gotham City Police Department Officer Jim Gordon are on the scene and they both try (and fail) to provide some comfort to Bruce. (Gordon is a beat cop that will soon move to Chicago. He’ll return to Gotham at the start of Year One.) Alfred picks-up Bruce and takes him home. Bruce is catatonic with grief. Alfred stays by his side the whole night through. Despite having living relatives on the Kane side of the family (notably his two uncles and Aunt Gabi), the orphaned Bruce is left in the primary guardianship of Alfred. This is partly due to the fact that the Kanes have long been estranged from the Waynes. Dr. Leslie will also care for Bruce time-to-time as well. A funeral is held and the Waynes are buried in a family cemetery adjacent to Wayne Manor. Bruce gets a future plot placed next to his parents’ graves.[12] The Kanes, the Sionises, and others are in attendance at the funeral. Bruce stops believing in God and won’t ever return to the church after this. Funny enough, the god of the Judeo-Christian/Islamic (Abrahamic) religions—also known as “The Presence,” “The Voice,” “The Lord,” “Allah” in Arabic, or “YHWH,” “Jehovah,” or “Elohim” in Hebrew—is very real in the DCU, along with hundreds, if not thousands, of gods from various other faiths. Alfred—with the support of Leslie—begins the tough challenge of raising a troubled boy that has lost everything. A bummed-out Bruce pushes-back immediately, always wanting to be alone and brood in his room. Alfred and Leslie, in an effort to help Bruce overcome his demons, push back, urging him to play and go outside. Moving forward, Alfred and Leslie will (understandably) be a bit supercilious, constantly telling Bruce what to do for the next decade-plus. While Bruce will rarely follow their advice, he will always listen. Alfred and Leslie will become Bruce’s loving surrogate parents, and Bruce will quickly come to see both of them that way too. Alfred and Leslie will be more influential in shaping Bruce’s life than anyone, both now and decades into his adulthood (and both as Bruce and Batman). Not long after the funeral of the Waynes, a will reading his held. Bruce’s uncle Philip Kane takes full control of Wayne Enterprises, but everything else—a vast fortune, multiple properties across the globe (including Wayne Manor), a couple Learjets, a Gulfstream, a yacht, and a small fleet of cars—goes to young Bruce. Alfred, who quietly receives billions of dollars of Wayne Industries stock of his own, retains power of attorney over Bruce’s estate until the boy is of age. Also of note: Lew Moxon is accused of being involved in the killings of Thomas and Martha Wayne, as revenge for Thomas having sent him to jail. However, with no evidence linking him or his cronies to the crime, the Moxon connection is quickly ruled out.

–FLASHBACK: From Batman Beyond Vol. 8 #7 and Batman Vol. 3 #104. Alfred accompanies young Bruce to the cemetery in the pouring rain. Bruce plaintively grieves by the side of his parents’ graves. Bruce swears an oath—vowing to avenge his parents one day.

–FLASHBACK: From Batman Giant #2. A tearful Bruce once again visits his parents’ graves.




–REFERENCE: In Flash Vol. 5 #21, Dark Days: The Casting #1, Dark Nights: Metal #1-2, Batman: Lost #1, and Detective Comics #978—originally told in Batman: The Return of Bruce Wayne #5. Alfred takes a saddened Bruce on a trip outside of Gotham to help clear the boy’s mind. Meanwhile, an amnesiac adult Bruce from the 21st century appears in Gotham thanks to Darkseid’s time-displacing Omega Sanction. Adult Bruce gets involved in film noir-esque family-related intrigue, specifically a sinister plot hatched by the criminal organization known as The Black Glove—which includes members Simon Hurt, John Mayhew, Carter Nichols, Marsha Lamarr, and others. While the amnesiac Bruce, manipulated into joining the Black Glove, waits in the wings, Marsha meets with Roderick and Betsy Kane, delivering them slanderous information about Martha and Thomas Wayne. Roderick doesn’t believe a word of it, but thanks to the heinous actions of Hurt, the elderly Kane patriarch is in an iron lung, in which he will spend the rest of his life. (Note that Betsy and Roderick will both die a couple years after this item, in close proximity to one another. Bruce will not attend their funerals.) In the vespertine hours, a confused Bruce is forced into taking part in an occult demon-summoning séance held by the Black Glove. The ritual will supposedly summon the demon Barbatos. (Hurt has long mistaken Darkseid’s Hyper-Adapter for the real Barbatos.) When Nichols betrays the Black Glove during the ritual, Bruce is able to use his Omega energy to activate a prototype time machine of Nichols’ own design, escaping to 100 Billion CE aka Vanishing Point, mere moments before the total destruction of the universe and the literal End of Time. Note that Hurt is actually Bruce’s great(x5) Uncle Thomas Wayne, endowed with quasi-immortality from a similar occult ritual performed in 1765. During the 1756 ritual, Hurt believed he had come into contact with Barbatos, hence his desire to do so again here. However, Hurt had actually mistakenly come into contact with the defeated Hyper-Adapter as it was falling backward through time. Although, unknown to Hurt, the real Barbatos was watching and manipulating everything, using Hurt and company to initiate the first rites of his own “Mantling” ritual. After all the Black Glove chaos ends, young Bruce returns home to Gotham with Alfred, having no clue any of the wild stuff even went down while they were away.

–FLASHBACK: From Let Them Live! Unpublished Tales From the DC Vault #3. Bruce, as he always does, visits the Tchalgadjieff Antiquarian Library, only he now notices a novel “haunted look” in the eyes of kindly librarian Mrs. Hostetler. Bruce assumes Mrs. Hostetler now shows this countenance to him due to the great tragedy that has befallen his family. In actuality, Mrs. Hostetler’s nervous condition has been exacerbated by the unnerving daily presence of creepy bookbinder CJ Greenwood.

–REFERENCE: In Batman Vol. 3 #35Batman Vol. 3 #69, Batman Vol. 3 #83, and Batman Vol. 3 #85. A depressed ten-year-old Bruce attempts suicide by slashing his wrists. After recovering, Alfred keeps a close eye upon Bruce, terribly worried that he will try to hurt himself again. Alfred watches in secret as Bruce holds a knife to his wrists once again, this time in his parents’ bedroom. However, Bruce has a change of heart, instead conducting a ceremonial oath by candlelight, during which he re-vows to war against all criminals in an effort to avenge his parents.

–REFERENCE: In All-Star Batman #10—originally told in All-Star Batman #1-5 (“MY OWN WORST ENEMY”). Following his suicide attempt, a disheartened Bruce is sent to live in a hospital for troubled youth, The Arkham Home, in Innsmouth, Massachusetts. Bruce only stays there for a couple months before returning to Alfred’s care at Wayne Manor, but during this time he meets and befriends a young Harvey Dent.

–REFERENCE: In Detective Comics #975. Bruce begins having nightmares about his parents’ deaths. He also begins having “good dreams” where he violently hunts down and kills the man responsible for murdering them. These nightmares and dreams will occur for Bruce for years to come.

–REFERENCE: In Detective Comics #1030. A depressed and confused Bruce, feeling intense loss, begins pushing his new guardian, Alfred, away with one hand while simultaneously reaching out to keep the relationship legitimate. Eventually, Bruce will come to accept Alfred as his new father-figure.

–REFERENCE: In Batman/Superman Vol. 2 #7. Bruce swears he can still smell his mom’s perfume inside Wayne Manor despite her being gone. He will have this olfactory sensation for decades to come.

–REFERENCE: In Batman Vol. 3 #83. Bruce and Alfred pose for a portrait painting. This portrait gets hung up in Wayne Manor.




–FLASHBACK: From Deathstroke Vol. 4 #35. Bruce reasserts his vow to avenge his parents deaths, beginning training by spelunking down into the caverns beneath Wayne Manor and navigating the bat-filled terrain while blindfolded. Alfred is not happy about this at all when he finds out, but Bruce will go down into the caves frequently, moving forward.

–REFERENCE: In Mother Panic/Batman Special #1. Gotham socialite Rebecca Paige meets young Bruce and notes how tragically sad he is, having gone through so much trauma.

–Batman: The Knight #1 Part 1
Despite Bruce befriending acquaintances Dana Dunlop and Sydney at Gotham Academy, Bruce begins getting in a lot of fights. After one too many fights (some bad enough to involve the police), a fed-up Alfred removes all the books from the Wayne Manor library, saying that Bruce will have to earn each book one-by-one as a reward for good behavior. After getting tormented by bullies, Bruce plots revenge (using botanical poisoning learned from a Jason Woodrue book). Bruce will spend most of the school year at Gotham Academy fighting bullies, specifically a boy named Mitch Shannon.

–FLASHBACK: From Detective Comics #995. Dr. Leslie Thompkins takes Bruce to her clinic. There, Bruce learns that there are many positive ways to make the world a better place. With strong admiration, he watches Leslie helping people and then helps her with a clothing drive and food drive. Bruce will often help Leslie perform charitable acts, moving forward.

–REFERENCE: In Detective Comics #1030. Bruce begins drawing and illustrating as a hobby. He will become quite a decent artist.




–REFERENCE: In Detective Comics #1030. A car bomb—intended to kill young Bruce—explodes prematurely, destroying a a vehicle that he and Alfred were supposed to be inside. GCPD Detective Catherine Podolsky works the case. The attempt upon Bruce’s life makes headline news, but the mystery assassin isn’t caught. (SPOILER: Detective Podolsky is actually Tommy Elliot’s half-sister, Catherine Elliot. She is the mystery assassin.)

–REFERENCE: In Detective Comics #1030. Bruce begins taking martial arts classes.

–REFERENCE: In Detective Comics #1030. After a martial arts class, another car bomb—again intended to kill young Bruce—explodes prematurely, just before Alfred and Bruce are set to enter their car. The mystery assassin remains at-large. As before, Detective Catherine Podolsky works the case. Detective Podolsky will conveniently be on the scene to investigate all the future assassination attempts upon Bruce’s life. Yes, there will be more!

–REFERENCE: In Detective Comics #960. Bruce shows an early aptitude for all things crime-fighting related, learning how to use a lock-pick.

–REFERENCE: In Detective Comics #1030. While visiting a carnival, the mystery assassin (Catherine Elliot) shoots at Bruce, but Alfred saves Bruce’s life. The would-be killer once again escapes scot-free without being identified.

–FLASHBACK: From Let Them Live! Unpublished Tales From the DC Vault #3. Christmas. Bruce again visits one of his favorite places—the Willoughby Z Tchalgadjieff Antiquarian Library.




–REFERENCE: In Detective Comics #1030. The mysterious attempts upon Bruce’s life continue, as Alfred discovers poison laced into the Wayne Manor vegetable garden.

–REFERENCE: In Detective Comics Annual #3 (2020) Part 1. Spring. On school break, Alfred takes a twelve-year-old Bruce on a long road trip from Gotham to Chicago to Arizona, following the old Route 66 on the latter half of the journey. Alfred lets Bruce drive the car for a bit once they pass Missouri.

–REFERENCE: In Detective Comics #1029. Late spring. In a graduation cap and gown, Bruce poses for a picture with Alfred. Since Bruce won’t graduate high school (and he’s currently only twelve-years-old), this has to be a junior high graduation ceremony. The photograph will get developed and framed for Wayne Manor.

–FLASHBACK: From Detective Comics #1033. Bruce plays baseball against Tommy Elliot, outmatching him. Thus begins the reoccurrence of Bruce consistently one-upping poor Tommy, with whom he also attends high school. While we won’t see this oneupmanship on our timeline below (and much of it will likely be in Tommy’s jealous head anyway), we can imagine awkward interactions littered throughout the next few years of our chronology.

–REFERENCE: In Detective Comics #1030. The mysterious attempts upon Bruce’s life continue, as Bruce’s favorite horse, manipulated by the would-be killer, goes wild and nearly throws Bruce to his death.

–FLASHBACK: From Detective Comics #995. Bruce, Alfred, and Leslie help serve food to the homeless at a soup kitchen.

–FLASHBACK: From Batman: Black and White Vol. 5 # 4 Part 4. Alfred and Bruce play chess.

–FLASHBACK: From Wonder Twins #1. September to October. Bruce takes a liking to and begins listening to The Bee Gees. Shortly thereafter, Bruce begins 9th grade at the fancy private Robinson High School. He quickly forms a crush on a girl that sits next to him in English class, Becky Muldoon. Bruce spends a lot of his school days daydreaming about her. Early in the first semester, he writes a love song about her—in the style of the Bee Gees, no less. His teacher, mistaking it for a poetry assignment, reads it to the entire class, embarrassing Bruce terribly and earning him the unfortunate nickname of “Bee Gee” for the rest of his freshman year.

–REFERENCE: In Flash Vol. 5 #21. Teenage Bruce tries to recover the gun that was used to murder his parents, but he is unable to find it. Note that Flash Vol. 5 #21 says that Bruce never recovers the gun or at least implies that he doesn’t get it until after “The Button” arc in Year 15. However, thanks to a big Kevin Smith retcon in Detective Comics #1000 Part 2, this is altered. Batman does indeed get his parents’ murder weapon, sometime in the middle of Year 5.

–REFERENCE: In Detective Comics #1030. Bruce learns how to scuba dive, posing for a photo with all his gear on. Before one of his lessons, Bruce’s mystery assassin (Catherine Elliot) strikes again, mixing nitrogen into his oxygen tank. Bruce barely survives but makes it to the surface alive.

–REFERENCE: In Batman: The Detective #1. Alfred takes thirteen-year-old Bruce on a trip to the West Pennine Moors in Lancashire, England.




–REFERENCE: In Detective Comics #1030. Despite being only thirteen-years-old, rich boy Bruce begins learning how to fly planes. During one of his initial lessons, the engines explode and the landing wheels malfunction—courtesy of Bruce’s would-be mystery assassin (Catherine Elliot). Bruce and his teacher (possibly Alfred) miraculously manage to land the plane safely.

–REFERENCE: In Detective Comics #1030. Bruce’s mystery assassin (Catherine Elliot) tries one final time to kill the teen, this time by tossing a molotov cocktail into Wayne Manor. Bruce survives. After this, the mystery assassin disappears, and the threats on Bruce’s life stop.

–REFERENCE: In Detective Comics #959. Bruce and Zatanna share a brief teenage romance. This affair happens outside of Gotham. We are not told the location of this event, but we can presume that it occurs in one of the random cities where the Zataras are on tour.

–REFERENCE: In Batman Vol. 3 Annual #2 Part 1 Conclusion, Harley Quinn Vol. 3 #58, and Detective Comics #1010. Bruce begins closely following the Gotham Knights Major League Baseball team. He will remain a lifelong fan. In general, Bruce loves baseball. He will even follow Japanese baseball too. And he will also study stats and history, becoming an expert baseball historian. (Note that Gotham also has a Gotham Knights NFL football team, so the city doesn’t seem to be very creative when it comes to sports nicknames.)

–REFERENCE: In Justice League Vol. 3 #41. Bruce reads Sir Thomas Malory’s histories about King Arthur and the Knights of the Round Table. Note that King Arthur and the Knights of the Round Table are real life characters that existed on our timeline.

–REFERENCE: In Batman Vol. 3 #92. Bruce begins doing puzzles, riddles, crosswords, and other math and logic games. He will be come a genius at just about any brainteaser that exists.




–FLASHBACK: From Detective Comics #975. January. Bruce’s younger twin cousins (Kate Kane and Beth Kane) and his aunt (Gabi Kane) are kidnapped and held for ransom in Brussels, Belgium. (Batwoman: Rebirth #1 says that this event occurs when the twins are twelve-years-old, but thanks to retcons in Detective Comics #975, it occurs when they are younger—around seven-years-old instead.) Bruce’s uncle (Jake Kane), a military colonel working with NATO, leads a rescue mission, but it gets botched. Horrific tragedy befalls the Wayne-Kane Family yet again. Kate is saved, but Gabi is killed and Beth goes missing. (Beth will later be incorrectly presumed dead.) Shortly thereafter, a funeral is held for Gabi. Bruce and Alfred attend. At the funeral, Kate asks Bruce is the pain of loss will ever go away. Bruce responds, saying that it hasn’t for him and that he has dreams of killing their killer. Kate tells Bruce that they should actually kill the men responsible. (Bruce’s uncles—Philip and Nathan—are likely in attendance at Gabi’s funeral. Note that Uncle Nathan probably dies at some point near the end of this Salad Days section, but it is highly unlikely that Bruce attends his funeral. Also note that, prior to his death, Uncle Nathan will marry the much younger Kathy Webb, who will one day become Bat-Woman and become romantically involved with Bruce.)

–REFERENCE: In Dark Nights: Death Metal #7. Bruce learns how to play bass guitar.

–REFERENCE: In Batman Vol. 3 #86 and Batman Vol. 3 #94. Bruce begins a habit of doodling elaborate city skylines—usually on napkins or scraps of paper. When Alfred notices this trend, he calls them Bruce’s “Little Gothams,” thinking they are idealized versions of the city. Bruce will doodle fantastic “Little Gothams” for years and years to come. Unknown to Alfred, these doodles don’t represent an idealized version of Gotham, but instead are symbolic Bruce’s dark designs for avenging his parents’ murders.


–REFERENCE: In Let Them Live! Unpublished Tales From the DC Vault #3. Bruce spends $685,000 to purchase his favorite book in the Tchalgadjieff Library collection, a 16th century illustrated Latin text about bats.

–REFERENCE: In the second feature to Detective Comics #1046. Bruce reads and enjoys the works of Edgar Allan Poe.

–FLASHBACK: From Batman: Black and White Vol. 5 # 4 Part 4. Alfred and Bruce play chess.

–FLASHBACK: From Let Them Live! Unpublished Tales From the DC Vault #3. When Tchalgadjieff librarian Carl Székely stops coming to work, Bruce suspects something must be wrong. After hours, Bruce breaks into the Tchalgadjieff Library and rifles through Székely’s office, discovering a suicide note in which Székely apologies for murdering his whole family. Bruce tries to stop the murder-suicide from occurring, but sadly there’s nothing he can do at this point. Unknown to all, creepy bookbinder CJ Greenwood had been slowly poisoning poor Székely’s mind, pointing him down this dark path of carnage and bloodshed.



–REFERENCE: In Batman Vol. 3 Annual #4. Spring to early summer. Bruce (now a sophomore in high school) begins dating co-ed Adrienne Williams. However, Bruce decides he wants to end high school early and leave Gotham to travel the globe on a lengthy training adventure. Bruce and Adrienne attend the prom together, sharing what is Bruce’s first kiss. Afterward, Bruce strolls with Adrienne, telling her that he’s breaking up with her because he’ll be leaving. The heartbroken couple parts ways. (The school year ends and Bruce stays broken up with poor Adrienne—but he postpones his departure from Gotham until next year.)

–REFERENCE: In Detective Comics #985. October. Now sixteen and in his junior year of high school, Bruce gets his driver’s license. With access to his family’s large collection of vehicles (including various sports cars collected in the Wayne Manor garage), Bruce quickly becomes an expert driver. For the rest of his life, he’ll drive these cars from time to time. We can also assume that Bruce will continue the family tradition of collecting cars, moving forward.

–REFERENCE: In Batman: The Merciless #1. Bruce meets and dates Julie Madison.

–REFERENCE: In Batman Secret Files: The Signal #1. Bruce begins journaling about his experiences, theoretical crime-fighting concepts, and wartime contingency plans. Bruce will journal and plan for the rest of his life, digitizing all of his notes and entries along the way. Eventually, the theories will form into actionable plans.




–REFERENCE: In Nightwing Vol. 4 #27, Detective Comics #967, and Detective Comics #978. Mary Elizabeth “Bette” Kane is born to Bruce’s uncle Philip and an unnamed partner. Bruce meets his new baby cousin Bette. It’s highly likely that they won’t have many interactions with each other, moving forward. Baby Bette will eventually grow up to become the original Bat-Girl (and a few other superheroes after that too).

–REFERENCE: In Bane: Conquest #2, Bane: Conquest #9-11, All-Star Batman #12, Deathstroke Vol. 4 #30, Harley Loves Joker #2, The Brave and The Bold: Batman and Wonder Woman #4, Batman Giant #2, Event Leviathan #6, Detective Comics #1019, Batman: The World Part 8, and Batman: The World Part 9, Batman: The World Part 10, and Batman: The World Part 12. Bruce begins studying world mythology and many different speaking languages. He will eventually become fluent in various tongues, including Mandarin, Spanish, Portuguese, Dari (Persian), Latin, Gaelic, French, Icelandic, Turkish, Polish, Korean, Indonesian, and the argot of the Ancient Sea People. Bruce also learns American sign language.[14]

–Batman: The Knight #1 Part 2
Bruce begins dating Dana Dunlop. Because Bruce is having recurring nightmares (specifically about his parents deaths and an ominous suit of medieval armor), Dana refers him to her psychologist Dr. Hugo Strange. Bruce spends six weeks undergoing talk therapy and hypnotherapy with Dr. Strange. During this time, Bruce intensifies gymnastics and MMA training, while growing closer to Dana. Bruce (soon to be a high school senior) applies to Gotham University and tells Dana he wants to be a cop, at which she scoffs. Later, Bruce ditches school to conduct his own scientific studies. Dana gives him a hard time about it, but Bruce notes that his family has already donated a ton of money to the school, so it doesn’t matter what he does. Bruce also begins competing in illegal underground MMA fights. One of these competitions gets raided, which results in Bruce getting arrested and bailed out by a disappointed Alfred. When Bruce realizes that Dr. Strange has been brainwashing Dana to steal her money, he calls the cops, who arrest the doctor. (These charges likely don’t stick since we’ll see Dr. Strange practicing again.) Before Strange is taken away, Bruce tells him that he (Bruce) is going away for a while. The real training is about to begin. (Note that, during their final session, Strange says that Bruce’s parents died “over ten years ago,” but this is false. They died eight years ago.)

–REFERENCE: In All-Star Batman #11, Detective Comics #959-960, Detective Comics #996Batman Vol. 3 Annual #2 Part 2, Batman Vol. 3 #53DC New Talent Showcase 2018 #1 Part 1, The Batman Who Laughs #2, Batman Vol. 3 Annual #4, and Batman Vol. 3 #103. At sixteen-years-old, Bruce ends high school early (opting to skip his senior year), leaving Gotham to go on a long training adventure all over the globe. (Batman: Gotham Nights Vol. 3 #20 tells us that Bruce travels abroad for five years, which jibes with his departure at age sixteen, prior to his senior year.) For the duration of most of his training, Bruce will remain incommunicado, even with Alfred. One of the primary motivators for Bruce’s training, besides wanting to defeat evil and avenge his parents’ murders, is knowing that the more steps he takes to push himself, the more lives he can eventually save. This concept will stay with (and haunt) Bruce for the rest of his life. He will forever be pushing himself to be the quintessential warrior—to be stronger, smarter, faster, better. And he will spend a lot of his financial inheritance to be able to train with various masters all over the world. Bruce’s initial training includes: gymnastics; acrobatics; tightrope walking; weightlifting; rock climbing; and learning how to operate boats and submarines.

–REFERENCE: In Batman Vol. 3 #94. Bruce seeks out legendary master detective Cassander Wycliffe Baker, but he’s gone completely off the radar and can’t be found, having been forced into seclusion after being bested by the super-villain known as The Designer. Catching a whiff of Bruce, Baker turns the tables on the teen and begins secretly trailing him. Baker will follow Bruce for years.

–REFERENCE: In Batman Vol. 3 Annual #2 Part 2, Justice League Vol. 3 #38, Batman Vol. 3 #75, and Batman Vol. 3 #81. September to December. Sixteen-year-old (turning seventeen in October) Bruce travels to a snowy remote wilderness (likely the Himalayas) to train for a full year with a master called The Memory of the Mountain, learning to encode his own senses onto his mind. During this tenure, Bruce will often steal cigarettes for his chain-smoking master, learning how to disguise himself in order to do so. At the end of the training period, Bruce has exceeded his master. Justice League Vol. 3 #38 makes mention that Batman can withstand/ignore intense pain or temperature via sheer will power and state of mind. It is likely that Bruce first learns this trick with the Memory of the Mountain. It is also likely that he will enhance this ability through training for the rest of his life. Batman Vol. 3 #81 also implies that the Memory of the Mountain teaches Bruce the secret “language of combat,” wherein which one can communicate or send messages via fighting.



–REFERENCE: In Batman Vol. 3 Annual #2 Part 2. January to August. Bruce finishes his training with the Memory of the Mountain.

–REFERENCE: In Batman Vol. 3 #94. Bruce, having already mastered some martial arts from his time spent with the Memory of the Mountain, travels to an undisclosed location where he trains in various forms of combat. Bruce will train in fighting for the rest of his life, also learning stealth techniques and spy-craft.

–REFERENCE: In Batman Vol. 3 #94. Bruce travels to Namibia to learn how to control the speed of his heartbeat. This item occurs specifically before Bruce trains with the Ducards in Paris.

–REFERENCE: In Batman: The Detective #4. In addition to learning how to control his heart rate, Bruce also learns how to control his metabolism, allowing him to block the spread of many types of poison within his own body. Similarly, Bruce learns about various poisons and toxicology.

–REFERENCE: In Batman Vol. 3 #94. Bruce travels to Japan to study the art of the katana from an expert swords-person. This item occurs specifically before Bruce trains with the Ducards in Paris.

–REFERENCE: In Batman Vol. 3 #94. Bruce travels to an undisclosed location where he learns how forge metal.

–REFERENCE: In Batman Vol. 3 #94 and Detective Comics #1027 Part 10. Bruce travels to an undisclosed location where he learns how to fly planes, helicopters, hang-gliders, and rockets. He also learns how to skydive, parachute, HALO jump, base-jump, and free-jump during this training session.

–FLASHBACK: From Batman: The Detective #3—and referenced in Batman Vol. 3 #24, The Batman Who Laughs #1, Detective Comics #996, and Batman: The Detective #3. In Paris, a seventeen-year-old Bruce—now carrying handcuffs with him wherever he goes—trails master detective and bounty hunter Henri Ducard, hoping to train with him. Outside the Louvre, Bruce helps Henri apprehend a fugitive on behalf of Interpol, which leads to Henri agreeing to train him (for a hefty price, of course). Bruce trains with Henri, helping him bring in many bounties. During this time, Henri teaches Bruce fieldcraft techniques, bounty hunting methodology, criminology, criminal psychology, crime scene investigation, and forensics. Henri also introduces Bruce to his son Morgan Ducard, who joins them on missions. During training with the Ducards, Bruce gets badly burned on his chest, resulting in a permanent scar. This is one of the first of many permanent scars that will mark Bruce’s body over the course of his career of adventure. Also during his training with the gun-loving Ducards, Bruce earns their derision for refusing to use firearms. (Bruce is an excellent marksman, but he simply refuses to propitiate the vicious Ducards in this regard.) After months pass, Bruce goes on a solo mission and is captured by his target. Henri rescues Bruce, shooting the target dead. Angered by the lethal maneuver, Bruce fights Henri, who takes down the teen, official ending their training. Bruce will keep semi-tabs on the Ducards for decades to come. He will run into Henri every so often, although not all of these encounters will be documented on our timeline ahead.




–FLASHBACK: From Batman Vol. 3 #94. Having recently finished training with the Ducards and still in Paris, Bruce finally tracks down another Parisian, infamous master detective Cassander Wycliffe Baker. Baker stuns Bruce by revealing that he’s been following him, even showing him a creepy room filled with Bruce’s “Little Gotham” doodles, which have been collected over the years. Bruce begs Baker to act as what he hopes will be his final tutor, but Baker says he’ll teach him only one lesson—how to lose. Baker rejects Bruce, sending him away.

–FLASHBACK: From Detective Comics #1000 Part 6 and Batman Vol. 3 #104—and referenced in Detective Comics #996. Originally told via flashback from Secret Origins of the World’s Greatest Super-Heroes and Batman #431. Bruce stops in the North Korean Paektu-San Mountains to train with master sensei Kirigi, learning ninjutsu and karate. Bruce doesn’t know Kirigi is also a trainer for the League of Assassins.

–FLASHBACK: From Detective Comics #959-961—and also referenced in Detective Comics #959-960Trinity Vol. 2 #17, and Justice League Dark Vol. 2 #12. Bruce travels to Las Vegas, where the Zataras have recently taken up permanent residence. In Vegas, Bruce asks the Zataras to train him in the art of magick, in which he doesn’t even really believe. John Zatara tells Bruce that he must learn the minor tricks of stage magic before he can learn magick proper. Bruce immediately begins studying, but is terrible even at the rudiments. While practicing sleight of hand, Bruce chats with a roughly sixteen-year-old Zatanna. (Zatanna says she was 17 in Detective Comics #960, but contradicts herself and says 15 in Detective Comics #961. Since Bruce is currently eighteen and both he and Zatanna are close in age, let’s go with seventeen for the latter’s age. In any case, it’s hard for me to recall my teenage years with clarity too.) Despite Zatanna’s guidance, Bruce is unable to master legerdemain. Later, Zatanna takes Bruce through a portal and gives Bruce a tour of her father’s magick collection. She performs some spells before showing him the ancient Gnosis Sphere (aka “The God Machine”), with which one can communicate with the dead or obtain answers to unanswerable questions. Bruce is curious, but he and Zatanna are interrupted by a returning John, who is in the middle of a meeting with Ra’s al Ghul, who is trying to recruit him into the League of Assassins! (Ra’s al Ghul aka “The Demon’s Head” is an immortal international terrorist. Sometimes his name is also spelled-out with random macrons, like “Rā’s al Ghūl” or “Ra’s al Ghūl.”) An angry John scolds Zatanna for showing Bruce the dangerous Gnosis Sphere. John then immediately mind-wipes Bruce, making him forget he ever saw it! On the way out, a dazed and confused Bruce accidentally bumps into Ra’s al Ghul. Ultimately, Bruce trains with the Zataras for a bit, but he never masters the true art of magick. The main knowledge Bruce obtains from this venture is learning about a few simple items that can ward off certain dark spells. Notably, Bruce asks John deep questions about the power of magick, learning to fear what magick could do to the universe if fully unleashed.

–FLASHBACK: From Batman Vol. 3 #104. Bruce continues training with the Zataras. John Zatara teaches Bruce the art of escapology.

–REFERENCE: In Detective Comics #998. Bruce continues training with the Zataras. He adopts the mantra “criminals are a superstitious and cowardly lot,” which he will keep firmly in mind for the rest of his life. While wrapping-up his training with the Zataras, Bruce is told about the ancient demon Etrigan, who has a symbiotic relationship and is bonded with the immortal mage, Jason Blood. After leaving the Zataras, Bruce immediately seeks out Jason Blood, finding him at his curio shop. Jason (and Etrigan) continue Bruce’s schooling on the occult. Bruce learns all about demonology, magick sigils, fear tactics, and more.

–FLASHBACK: From Batman: Urban Legends #11 Part 1. Bruce continues training with the Zataras. Bruce’s on-again-off-again teenage romance with Zatanna blossoms into something a bit more serious (or at least more flirtatious). Bruce and Zatanna perform a bonding spell, which is meant to mentally connect the couple. The ritual works, causing them to telepathically link. However, it also alters a ley line, opening a dark gateway into the spirit realm, through which evil forces attempt to emerge. Bruce and Zatanna are barely able to close the portal. Zatanna reveals that, for their grave error, she and Bruce will have to join together every few years moving forward to perform an occult ritual to keep the demons at bay. Bruce begins studying how to fix their error, and he will do so in vain for decades to come. For the rest of his life, Bruce will regard magick very negatively. Moving forward, Bruce’s relationship with Zatanna will also suffer because of this.

–FLASHBACK: From Batman Vol. 3 #104. Bruce briefly trains in boxing with former world heavyweight champion and current costumed-vigilante Wildcat (Ted Grant). Wildcat is also a member of the Justice Society of America (JSA), a team of semi-immortal superheroes that has existed since the 1940s.

–REFERENCE: In Task Force Z #4. Bruce learns the art of forgery and familiarizes himself with signatures of high-ranking government officials.

From Batman Vol. 3 #102, Batman Vol. 3 #104, and Batman: Urban Legends #11 Part 2—and referenced in Batman Vol. 3 #100 Epilogue, Batman Vol. 3 #103, Batman Vol. 3 #105, and Batman Vol. 3 #110. Bruce briefly trains with a martial arts master in the snowy mountains of Morocco. Among the master’s other students is another roving traveller looking to enhance his combat abilities—masked fifteen-year-old Minhkhoa “Khoa” Khan, who calls himself The Ghost-Maker. Bruce quickly befriends the Ghost-Maker, thinking him a kindred spirit. Every night after training (which includes learning Morse code), the two spend time together, growing closer. The Ghost-Maker learns all about Bruce’s life, quest, and motivations. Bruce and the Ghost-Maker are also joined by assassin-in-training Rhea Sinha, who will one day be known as “Wight Witch.” Despite having the same drive (and similar goals) as Bruce, the Ghost-Maker is one bad dude. Upon hearing that Bruce is driven by the loss of family, the Ghost-Maker comes to believe Bruce is weak and nothing at all like him. Having felt he’s learned enough from the master, the Ghost-Maker takes out the sensei (either seriously injuring him or even killing him). The Ghost-Maker then fights Bruce to a bloody draw. Heartbroken, Bruce tells the Ghost-Maker to stay out of his life and affairs, moving forward. Not long after, Bruce travels to Dublin, Ireland with hopes of learning knife-play and combat knife-fighting from a wanted killer. However, the Ghost-Maker interrupts, leading to another brawl between Bruce and his rival.

–REFERENCE: In Superman Vol. 4 #25 and Nightwing Vol. 4 #24. Bruce learns how to use a variety of weapons, including boomerangs and shurikens. Bruce also begins teaching himself to use his surroundings to his advantage while in combat—to use any item within reach as a weapon.




–REFERENCE: In The Batman Who Laughs #2. While training abroad in an unknown location, Bruce hears the locals cite the heart as the location where happiness is located. While he won’t take much note of it now, Bruce, in his travels, will eventually be struck by how many different cultures cite something similar in regard to the heart and happiness.

–REFERENCE: In Batman Secret Files #1 Part 4. While training abroad, Bruce learns hunting skills, tracking skills, and archery.

–REFERENCE: In All-Star Batman #10-11, Detective Comics #958-959, Detective Comics #978, Detective Comics #1024, Nightwing Vol. 4 #24, Dark Days: The Forge #1, Superman Vol. 4 #37, Trinity Vol. 2 #14-15, Deathstroke Vol. 4 #34-35, Harley Quinn 25th Anniversary Special #1 Part 4, Harley Quinn Vol. 3 #57, Heroes in Crisis #2, The Batman Who Laughs #7, Detective Comics Annual #3 (2020) Part 1, and Batman/Fortnite: Zero Point #1. Already an autodidactic polymath, Bruce begins studying all forms of science—from chemistry, pharmacognosy, and pharmacology to geophysics, biology, and medicine (and pretty much everything else imaginable). He will study all sciences for the rest of his life, eventually becoming a doyen in multiple fields. Relatedly, Bruce learns emergency first aid, begins studying and all there is to know about the human anatomy, and even learns how to do both basic and speciality surgical procedures. Bruce begins studying explosives engineering and how to defuse all manner of bombs. Also relatedly, Bruce begins learning physics, aerospace engineering, electrical engineering, computer engineering, computer science, robotics, data systems analysis, code-breaking, hacking, carpentry, construction, architecture, industrial design, modern and historic hoplology, and auto mechanics—just to name a few! Bruce will keep up-to-date on all these topics for the rest of his life.

–REFERENCE: In Batman Vol. 3 #80. In addition to the sciences, Bruce begins what will become a deep-dive lifelong study of the arts, including philosophy and history.

–REFERENCE: In Nightwing Vol. 4 #24, Heroes in Crisis #2, Detective Comics #994, and Detective Comics #1000 Part 1. Bruce begins studying the advanced jurisprudence, police methodology, and fingerprinting. Already well-versed in human anatomy, medicine, and various surgical procedures, Bruce begins learning how to conduct autopsies. He will obsessively study his parents’ murders for years to come.

–REFERENCE: In Batman/Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles II #2. Bruce, already studying various scholarly pursuits, adds Chinese history and Chinese archeology to his curriculum vitae. He will study these interests for his entire life.

–REFERENCE: In Justice League of America Vol. 5 #8 and Superman Vol. 4 #25. Batman begins studying body language and facial micro-expressions, learning the ability to “read” someone to tell if they are lying or not.

–REFERENCE: In All-Star Batman #12, Dark Nights: Metal #1, and Trinity Vol. 2 #17. Bruce studies military personnel, materiel, and tactics, familiarizing himself with all types of naval, land, and air methods of warfare. He also studies military history from all throughout time and all over the world. As part of his education, Bruce visits at least one aviation museum.

–REFERENCE: In Detective Comics #1028. Bruce learns how to read lips.

–REFERENCE: In Dark Days: The Forge #1. Bruce, while training abroad, meets and befriends tech-savvy businessman Lucius Fox.

–FLASHBACK: From Batman Vol. 3 #53. Having now achieved Olympic-level athleticism, Bruce continues his gymnastics training. He also travels to an unknown locale (likely Northern Europe, the Himalayas, North Korea, Patagonia, Canada, or the North Atlantic) to practice some of the most dangerous ice climbing on the planet.

–REFERENCE: In Detective Comics #996. Bruce travels to Gila, New Mexico to expand his escapology skills by training with costumed-showman and master escape artist Mr. Miracle (Thaddeus Brown). Bruce will remain friends with Brown for the rest of his life.

–FLASHBACK: From Batman Vol. 3 #103—and referenced in Batman Vol. 3 #103. Early September—the anniversary of the death of Bruce’s parents. Bruce trains with the Desert Kings in the Gobi Desert. While wandering through the sands, Bruce pauses to silently meditate on his own. While doing so, he is approached by his old rival, the Ghost-Maker. They sword-duel, with Bruce getting the better of his opponent. Ironically, Bruce tells the Ghost-Maker that he won’t need a secret identity or mask to wage war against crime once he returns to Gotham. Ha! Bruce and the Ghost-Maker will fight several more times over the course of the next two years, with Bruce winning each time. We won’t see these fights on our timeline ahead, but we can imagine them happening at Bruce’s various training sites.

–REFERENCE: In The Batman Who Laughs #3. Despite hating firearms, Bruce begins training in target practice and marksmanship. He will eventually become an expert shootist.




–FLASHBACK: From Detective Comics #1000 Part 6. Bruce travels to the Himalayas to continue his training. While in Lhasa, Tibet, Bruce is mugged by some kids that are League of Assassins trainees, including Tan Lujun. They beat him up and steal his wallet.

–REFERENCE: In Detective Comics #1027 Part 1. Bruce travels to the hidden city of Nanda Parbat in the Himalayas. There he trains with monks and yogi masters, learning breathing techniques and how to control his heart rate. Bruce learns how to slow his heart rate so that he appears to be dead.

–REFERENCE: In Batman: Black and White Vol. 5 #5 Part 5. Possibly linked to the previous item, Bruce learns various deep meditation techniques, which he will employ for the rest of his life.

–REFERENCE: In Doomsday Clock #5—originally told in Batman Confidential #50-54. Bruce trains in China, where he trails serial killer Huairen. The killer fatally wounds Bruce, but he’s saved by a metahuman named Ri. Bruce joins Ri’s super-team known as The Zhuguan, which features other members Guanxi, Dao, and Sudu. As a member of the Zhuguan, Bruce drinks from a magickal elixir that grants him temporary invisibility powers. Calling himself “Hei An Wushuh” (aka “The Dark Knight”), Bruce helps take down Huairen.

–REFERENCE: In Legends of the Dark Knight Vol. 2 #6 (Legends of the Dark Knight Vol. 2 Print Edition #3). Bruce (likely in China) trains in So Chan’s drunken boxing and fa jin.

–FLASHBACK: From Batman Vol. 3 #105 and DC: Love is a Battlefield #1 Part 1. Bruce makes one final stop in Argentina to complete his training. Presumably, amidst his training, Bruce also learns how to tango and ballroom dance.[15] Afterward, Bruce charters a flight with plans to return to Gotham. At the airport, Bruce is approached by his frenemy, the Ghost-Maker, who tells him he isn’t ready to wage a war against crime. The Ghost-Maker tries to sell Bruce on the idea of joining him and continuing their training, after which they can take down international crime. But their ideals are completely different. Bruce rejects the Ghost-Maker’s offer, telling him that he never wants to see him again.


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  1. [1]COLLIN COLSHER: Some very important rules before we get going with the Rebirth Era chronology. As before, flashbacks are included in a specific way. If a flashback is first revealed—let’s say in Bat Year 15, hypothetically—the flashback may or may not be mentioned in Bat Year 15, but the actual events that occur in said flashback will be placed one the timeline exactly when they originally occurred through bullets listed as “flashback.” Similarly, story references will be listed as unnumbered bullet “references.” Therefore, any “references” or “flashbacks” occur chronologically at the spot where they are situated on the timeline. Any character names (or group names) highlighted in red denote the first appearance of a reoccurring character (or group). Some of these red items may appear only once in the Bat-verse but appear elsewhere throughout the DCU, which is why they have been highlighted as well.

    One more thing. As stated elsewhere on the website, just about everyone eats, shits, sleeps, brushes their teeth, watches TV, goes to the office, schedules appointments in advance, and celebrates birthdays, anniversaries, and special occasions. Believe it or not, Batman does all these things too. He’s human just like you and me! However, this kind of mundane everyday stuff won’t be on our timeline. Usually, anyway.

  2. [2]COLLIN COLSHER: What is the rule when it comes to addressing retcons while building our timeline? Can narrative be canonized piecemeal from within a single comic? And how do we know a retcon when we see one? My timeline-building methodology doesn’t generally involve picking and choosing pieces of individual comics. Typically, a full issue is either canon or it isn’t. The only time pieces of a single comic get added are via reference (or the occasional dreaded out-and-out retcon). It’s up to the reader to make things fit into the greater puzzle—either by fanwank or caveat citing a retcon/irreconcilable difference. It’s certainly not an exact science—and I’m sure I break my own rules every now and again. But I really try not to. Later issues can retcon pieces of prior issues i.e. the Modern Age example of The Man Who Laughs (2005) retconning the end of Miller’s “Year One” (1987). But prior issues trumping later issues doesn’t usually happen. An exception to this rule would apply to retcons from later published material that is quasi-canonical in nature i.e. the Modern Age’s The Batman Files. Here’s the big thing to remember: Not everything contradictory that is written later is meant to be a retcon. Some writers simply make mistakes! It’s up to the reader to determine what is a retcon versus what is a continuity error. In this way, we have a loophole to all of our aforementioned edicts. It’s a difficult process determining what is or isn’t a retcon, and, as said before, it certainly isn’t an exact science with hard rules. Thus, we get caveats that say what needs to be ignored. Honestly, the continuity game is a mug’s game. As stated above, the idea is simply to come up with the best (most sensible) reading order. In my practice, I’ve tried to do this while simultaneously providing detailed explanations into my thinking.
  3. [3]COLLIN COLSHER: Batman: Legends of the Dark Knight was a long-running Modern Age series. Legends of the Dark Knight (sans Batman in the title) was a non-canon New 52 series. This is the second (now canon) volume of the latter series, which was originally released in digital format only. The (re)print (re)release changed numbering.
  4. [4]COLLIN COLSHER: In Legends of the Dark Knight Vol. 2 #10 (Legends of the Dark Knight Vol. 2 Print Edition #5), Batman specifically says that his birthday is October 7. The only other instance of Bruce being born in October comes from The Batman, an animated series that ran from 2004 to 2008. However, since no other comics in the Rebirth Era/Infinite Frontier era have ever given a specific date for Bruce’s birthday, this lone reference stands as canon.
  5. [5]COLLIN COLSHER: Depending on the chronology to which you subscribe, the ages of DC’s characters will fluctuate and don’t hold fast to an exact mathematical science, especially since there are so many contradictory references and time gets retconned so much in the comics. Despite this, I’m confident in the birthdates listed within my chronology, and this includes Bruce Wayne’s birthdate. According to the Batman Chronology Project, the Rebirth/Infinite Frontier Era birth-years of major players are as follows:

    Bruce Wayne – born in 1980
    Alfred Pennyworth – born around 1958
    Jim Gordon – born around 1970
    Selina Kyle – born around 1985
    Dick Grayson – born in 1990
    Barbara Gordon – born in 1991
    Jason Todd – born in the mid 1990s
    Tim Drake – born in 1997
    Stephanie Brown – born in 1997
    Cassandra Cain – born in 2002
    Talia al Ghul – born in 1986
    Kate Kane – born in 1988
    Kathy Kane – born in the late 1970s
    Damian Wayne – born in 2007

  6. [6]DEFINITIVEWILLG / COLLIN COLSHER: Martha Wayne is a biological aunt to Kate Kane, who whilst not orthodox certainly identifies as Jewish. While speculative, this hints at an identification with Judaism for Martha (and/or some members the Kane side of the family). There are a few articles whizzing about the net about the religious affiliation of the Waynes and Kanes, but there’s also a little reference in a story that says Martha made the best Kielbasa in Gotham. So, maybe the Kanes could be descended from Polish Jews? It’s certainly an interesting thought, although nothing is ever specifically stated in the comics. For example, we don’t know really know where Kate’s Judaism came from. Was it because her dad (Jake Kane) was Jewish? Or was it because Jake married a Jewish woman? If the latter is true, then Martha might not be Jewish. After all, the blood-born Waynes and Kanes both seem quite WASPish. But again, we can’t know for sure.
  7. [7]COLLIN COLSHER: As referenced in James Tynion IV’s Justice League Vol. 4 #22, Barbatos (along with Perpetua, Monitor Mar Novu, Anti-Monitor Mobius, and World Forger Alpheus) have lived through all of DC’s reboots. Thus, due to his existence on an untouchable cosmic plane, the same incarnation of Barbatos has been around since the beginning of everything.
  8. [8]COLLIN COLSHER: In late 2016, Detective Comics returned to its original legacy numbering, ending Vol. 2 and going back to where Vol. 1 left off with ‘tec #934. However, someone at the DC offices didn’t seem to realize that this return to legacy numbering should also have affected the Annuals as well. Thus, instead of returning to where things left off (with Annual #13), they simply did a new Annual #1. This effectively made two versions of ‘tec Annual #1—one released in 1988 and one released in 2018. Originally, I labeled the 2018 Annual #1 as Detective Comics Vol. 3 Annual #1, but there is no Detective Comics Vol. 3, so that’s wrong. Similarly, DC put out a second Annual #2 and second Annual #3 in 2019 and 2020, respectively, doubling the originals from 1989 and 1990. Several other comics websites also reacted to the weird repeat Annuals with confusion or by looking for a fix. The DC Database, for example, lists the new comics as Annual 2018, Annual 2019, and Annual 2020. Since DC lists them as Annual #1, Annual #2, and Annual #3, I’ve done a hybrid of sorts, listing them as Annual #1 (2018), Annual #2 (2019), and Annual #3 (2020).
  9. [9]COLLIN COLSHER: Batman Beyond Vol. 8 began publication in 2016, and Batman Beyond Vol. 7 began publication in 2015. According to some sources, the prior two volumes—Vol. 5 and Vol. 6 (2012-2014)—are not official volumes because they collect digital-first material under the series names Batman Beyond Unlimited and Batman Beyond Universe, respectively. Thus, those sources, taking into consideration the alternate series names, list them separately by referring to Vol. 8 as Vol. 7 (and Vol. 7 as Vol. 6) instead. I, however, have chosen to regard Unlimited and Universe as Volumes 5 and 6. Correspondingly, the Batman Beyond notes below will start with Volume 8.
  10. [10]COLLIN COLSHER: We can assume that early September is when the Waynes are killed. This reflects the New 52, in which both Peter Tomasi and Scott Snyder penned their deaths as happening in early September. And just like in the New 52, we know for certain that the Waynes were killed at 10:48 PM, as referenced in Tom King’s Batman Vol. 3 #63.
  11. [11]COLLIN COLSHER: How do we know Bruce’s age when his parents are murdered in the Rebirth Era? First of all, there are two contradictory camps in the DCU—one that thinks Bruce’s folks kicked the bucket when he was eight-years-old and the other that thinks they perished when he was ten-years-old. Here’s the breakdown.

    James Tynion’s Detective Comics #943 (a New 52 issue with “Rebirth” trade-dressing released in 2016) tells us that Bruce was eight; Peter Tomasi’s Detective Comics #995 (2019) states outright, via Leslie Thompkins dialogue, that Bruce was eight; Tynion’s Batman Vol. 3 #105 (2021) has Bruce say that his parents died when he was eight; Marc Guggenheim’s Batman: Gotham Nights Vol. 3 #20 (2020) points toward eight by saying that Bruce’s training abroad spanned only five years; Chip Zdarsky’s Batman: The Knight #1 (2022) has straightforward nods toward Bruce having been eight (showing Bruce in his senior year of high school before leaving to train abroad, plus comments by Hugo Strange); and the “released by DC and likely meant to be official” but 100% non-canonical DC Book: A Vast and Vibrant Multiverse Simply Explained (2021) by Stephen Wiacek, which also says eight. Scott Snyder’s All-Star Batman #3 (another New 52 issue with “Rebirth” trade-dressing released in 2016) depicts the first meeting of a young Bruce Wayne and young Harvey Dent. This scene occurs shortly after Bruce’s parents have been murdered. The boys are drawn (by John Romita) as if they look to be eight to ten-years-old.

    Tom King’s Batman Vol. 3 #35 (2018) implies that he was ten, having Selina Kyle say that Bruce made a vow to avenge his parents at that age. (Emphasis on “implies.” Just because Bruce makes the vow at age ten, doesn’t necessarily mean that his folks didn’t die a couple years earlier.) King’s Batman Vol. 3 #20 (a New 52 issue with “Rebirth” trade-dressing released in 2017) also similarly implies that Bruce was ten at the time. As does King’s Batman Vol. 3 #12 (a New 52 issue with “Rebirth” trade-dressing released in 2017), which reveals that a ten-year-old Bruce attempted suicide at some point following his parents’ passing. King’s Batman Vol. 3 #52 (2018) specifically and unequivocally tells us—straight from Bruce’s mouth—that he was ten when his folks perished.

    What does it all add up to? First, all the New 52 with “Rebirth” trade-dressing items listed above should be regarded as merely quasi-canonical references because they were published prior to the post-“Superman Reborn” reboot. Keep that in mind when weighing value. Also keep in mind whether or not something is implied or specifically stated. The latter obviously has more weight. Tynion delivers a vague implied answer—and also quasi-canonical—of eight. Tomasi delivers a canonical eight. Tynion returns with a more definitive eight. Zdarsky and Guggenheim give us mostly straightforward eights, which we’ll both call definitive. And Wiacek gives us another eight, although it’s from a book outside of legitimate canon. King gives us an official ten plus four vague implied tens, only one of which is officially from the Rebirth Era—making two out of the latter three merely quasi-canonical. Snyder gives us a vague answer—again quasi-canonical—that could be read as either eight or ten.

    The final tally for eight is six total: three canon definitive, one quasi-canonical implied, and one non-canon—coming from five different sources (Tynion, Tomasi, Guggenheim, Zdarsky, and Wiacek). The final tally for ten is four total: one canon definitive, one canon implied, and two quasi-canonical implied—all coming from a single source (King). And there’s one that goes either way (Snyder). The eights have it.

    Here’s the breakdown for Bruce’s age at the time of his parents’ deaths for every publication era. In the Golden Age, 9-years-old; Silver Age, 12; Modern Age, 8; New 52, 10; and Rebirth Era, 8.

  12. [12]COLLIN COLSHER: The Wayne graves are sometimes shown to have one shared tombstone while other times they are shown to have individual tombstones. This sepulchral situation always differs depending on the artist. Also, a minority of creators incorrectly place the Wayne burial site at a public cemetery in the city. This contradicts the majority of other stories—notably by Scott Snyder, Peter Tomasi, Warren Ellis, Greg Rucka, and Chip Zdarsky—which confirm that the Waynes are interred in the private cemetery adjacent to the Wayne Manor property.
  13. [13]COLLIN COLSHER: Batman: Gotham Nights Vol. 3 #15 features a flashback that shows a teenage Bruce Wayne meeting a teenage Selina Kyle at a police precinct. Both teens have been arrested—Bruce for drunk and disorderly and Selina for larceny. Since neither Bruce nor Selina will ever mention this important meeting in the future, despite near constant harping about their first meeting (was it on on the street or on a boat?), there’s no way this can be canon. Imagine Tom King’s Batman and Catwoman arguing about a street, a boat, and a police station too. No thank you. As such, all of Batman: Gotham Nights Vol. 3 #15 is out-of-continuity. Any argument that this could be canon because they were young enough to forget this meeting is invalid because the cops and Alfred say Bruce’s name multiple times.
  14. [14]COLLIN COLSHER: Batman speaks Portuguese in Bane: Conquest #2 and Harley Loves Joker #2; Dari and Latin in Bane: Conquest #2; French in Bane: Conquest #9-11, Mandarin in Deathstroke Vol. 4 #30; the argot of the Ancient Sea People in All-Star Batman #12; Gaelic in The Brave and The Bold: Batman and Wonder Woman #4; Icelandic in Detective Comics #1019; American sign language in both Batman Giant #2 and Event Leviathan #6; Turkish in Batman: The World Part 8, Polish in Batman: The World Part 9, Spanish in Batman: The World Part 10, and Korean in Batman: The World Part 12; and Indonesian in Batman Vol. 3 #118.
  15. [15]DIEGO BARCELO / COLLIN COLSHER: Writer James Tynion gives us the neat easter egg of Bruce’s final training stop being Argentina (in Batman Vol. 3 #105). While Argentina likely can’t offer anything useful in regard to combat arts, especially at a time prior to Gaucho’s existence as a public superhero, there could perhaps be some academic knowledge to glean from certain professionals that may reside there. It’s also possible that Tynion is referencing Bruce learning the strictly Argentinian “Tango of Death,” as seen in the Modern Age’s Batman Incorporated #3. In regard to the “Tango de la Muerte,” Batman Incorporated #4 originally shows what can be interpreted as Batwoman teaching Batman the “Tango de la Muerte” during one of their early team-ups. This means that, in the Modern Age, Bruce did not learn the “Tango de la Muerte” during his salad days abroad. However, things could be different in the Rebirth Era, so anything is possible, especially since Christos Gage’s Love is a Battlefield #1 Part 1 shows Bruce and Selina doing the tango (the non-death version), which functions as the reference to Bruce’s learning of ballroom dance here and now.

24 Responses to Rebirth Salad Days

  1. Leonard Dement says:

    you seriously need to stop including non canon things like doomsday clock and the batman’s grave. Neither of those are of main continuity. While doomsday clock DOES take place on the same earth it’s an alternate history. Nothing in main continuity connects to doomsday clock. And by the way. The new 52 is still canon. Rebirth is not separate. Superman reborn’s history clearly shows its still canon.

    • Hi, Leonard. I strongly encourage discourse on my site. It is what fuels this site. I connect with many folks on the comments section here, via email, and on facebook—and I constantly make changes and corrections based upon recommendations and suggestions. The site constantly changes for the better this way—and, in this way, a myriad of voices get to contribute too. Some of these voices are extremely passionate—and I love that because, hell, I am too! Maybe I’m misreading the tone of your comment, but it sounds less like passion and more like you got up on the wrong side of the bed today. My comment section isn’t a vitriolic YouTube wall or a 4Chan message board, so please try to have some decorum. Nevertheless, I hear you, and I welcome conversation about the important things you are addressing. As such, I’ll try my best to address them now.

      Plenty of things connect to Doomsday Clock. It was only recently that DC higher ups decided to muddy that water. And Scott Snyder still says that “everything will make sense” once Death Metal comes out, specifically in relation to Doomsday Clock. I’m not so sure, but, anyway, we’ll see in a few months, I suppose, when the inevitable reboot comes. And if you look at Doomsday Clock on my timeline, you’ll clearly see that I have it in a holding place—a sort of limbo, if you will—until it gets sorted out. But, yeah, it’s still on my timeline because it was 100% canon until quite recently. It very well may remain so in the end, but as I said, we shall see. In any case, it does connect to a lot of things on the main line, so DC should tread carefully with this one.

      Continuity is a tough game and Batman’s Grave is a tough one in particular. There are things that hint at it being non-canon, but they are minor quibbles. There are actually more things hinting at non-canonicity in Tom King’s Batman and Scott Snyder’s JL, but those we cannot question—see what I mean about continuity being tough? Once Batman’s Grave wraps, we’ll be able to see the bigger picture. I might take Batman’s Grave off my timeline—maybe so, maybe not. I might even do it based upon your recommendation here! All depends. I’m not married to any particular mini-series, including this Batman’s Grave. If it doesn’t fit in the end, then it’ll go bye-bye. Question though: Has anyone from DC specifically said it was non-canon? If they have, I’ve missed that.

      Overall, I think maybe you and I have different perspectives—which is totally fine, totally okay! I think it speaks to the disjointed nature of the current line (meaning DC’s main line since 2011). The reason I have the New 52 separate (even though it’s history is included within the Rebirth timeline—which you can clearly see on my chronology) is because it really has major differences—notably a 5-6-year timeline vs a 12-13-year timeline, among other things. Could I have treated Rebirth like a soft Zero Hour-style relaunch, peppering my timeline with caveats and asterisks? Maybe. But I think it’s different than that, and different enough that it warranted a wholly separate approach. All the big occurrences of the New 52 have been neatly folded into the Rebirth timeline, much akin to how all the big Golden, Silver, and Bronze occurrences were tucked into the Modern Age timeline. Hope that makes sense.

      • David Kenny says:

        Wanted to hear your take on this since I didn’t see it in your modern day section (or maybe I just missed it). Does Dark Victory and Batgirl/Robin Year 1 work together? I’m working on collecting a semi-cohesive timeline of trade paperbacks, but I’m not sure on whether to get Robin Year 1 or not.

        • Robin: Year One goes after Dark Victory concludes (with some caveats).

          First, a flashback from Robin: Year One #2 shows the scene of Harvey Dent getting acid thrown in his face, but it contains visual continuity errors and text dialogue errors that are enough to warrant its non-canonical status. While the flashback must be ignored, the issue itself, along with the series, is canon (again, with minor caveats). Chuck Dixon originally wrote this story so that it spanned the course of many months, starting in September. However, due to Sliding-Time and compression, this cannot be the case. If we turn a blind eye to certain unimportant topical items in Robin: Year One, a legitimate alternate interpretation of the narrative delivers a story that spans a mere month or two, starting in mid December instead of September. (Dixon’s original narrative intention was to have this arc begin in September, but due to compression and Sliding-Time, we are definitely in mid December when it begins. This means not only is Dick starting school midyear, but he’s also starting mere days before holiday vacation. I guess, Bruce wants him to meet his new classmates before the break?)

          Batgirl: Year One by Scotty Beatty/Chuck Dixon/Marcos Martin (2003) has some really interesting Batgirl information and background in it, but to place it contradictory-free in its entirety into any legit chronology would be impossible. The first three issues of the nine-issue series (Batgirl: Year One #1-3) re-show Batgirl’s debut encounter with Killer Moth, which happens at Bristol Country Club, the host of the policeman’s ball masquerade. It’s not necessarily wrong, but it’s one of many versions of her public debut. Batgirl: Year One #1-3 is definitely non-canon, though, for a few other reasons.

          First, Babs has already graduated from college. Wrong. Second, Gordon is still a captain. Wrong. Third, the Teen Titans already exist. Wrong. Fourth, right after her debut encounter with Killer Moth, not only does Moth escape, but both Batman and Robin meet Batgirl as well. Double wrong. Issue #5 is non-canon because Gordon is still a captain and we see an incorrect version of Garfield Lynn’s debut as Firefly. Issue #7 is non-canon because it shows the JLA using the satellite HQ, which they wouldn’t have yet.

          So, to re-iterate, Robin: Year One is canon and can co-exist with Dark Victory. Batgirl: Year One is half-canon, taking things case-by-case/issue-by-issue.

    • MICHAEL KEANE says:

      Doomsday clock was certainly intended to be in continuity, that it published late kinda messed this up ( tgat and bendises lsh) but it’s description of what manhattan did to the timeliness is utterly cannon

  2. Jack James says:

    Hey man, I figured it’d be better to go through here than Facebook.

    But yeah, I dunno, I understand the rationale surrounding making Bruce become Batman at 20, but something about the fact that he left the city at 16, and then became Batman at 20 just seems a little bit too ridiculous to me (granted, this is comic books after all, but most Batman stories imply his training was far longer than that, heck, pre-Flashpoint it took him 12 years of training till he became Batman, and this version pretty much has the same skillset as that one)

    While it’s probably impossible to cram it together so it has the 12 years of training that pre-Flashpoint gave him (which to be honest is my preferred version as it kinda hammers home how obsessive he is) , I do think perhaps there’s a way to extend the period of time this version of Bruce trained.

    In The Batman Who Laughs #1, I read it and it seems to imply Bruce is younger than 42 or 43, so this leaves us in a range in which he can be late 30s yes, but also early 40s.

    I’m not aware if there’s any comic that specifically mentions Bruce leaving Gotham for his intense training at sixteen, so perhaps that can be changed so he leaves Gotham at 14 (like he’s done in previous versions) or 15? The fact that he went to a high school prom can be explained by well, he’s a genius and perhaps he advanced quickly on his grades. So this would give him like 6-7 years of training which matches the New 52 version.

    There’s also perhaps moving the dates up a lil bit, make it so he became Batman at 23 (like in pre-Crisis, which would kinda match with how much Tom King loves to reference aspects of that version in this Batman), which would make it so that Bruce becomes Batman in 2005, and modern continuity takes place in 2023, I dunno if that matches tho and maybe could create complications, but even then maybe 2004 or 2003.

    Also, maybe my math sucks but in the Year Zero page you put that he’s turning 21 in 2002, which… how? He was born in 1982 haha.

    Although… reading All-Star Batman, the only real reference to Bruce being born that year was two panels, one in which Alfred is in Falklands and another in which Alfred’s father is holding a baby Bruce. The panel is vague enough so that it could conceivably be a 1 year old Bruce, so that could make it so Buce could be born in 1981.

    So maybe… my suggestion would be, either move Bruce’s birthdate to 1981, move the time he started training to 14 years old, have him become Batman in 2003 at the age of 22, or do a combination of all of them which would make Bruce 40 at the time of The Batman Who Laughs which is Year 17, still keeping in-line with that reference. So Bruce would’ve trained for roughly 8 years, which is more in-line with the other versions of Batman that this continuity has kinda merged together, in fact it’d kinda be the mid point between Pre-Flashpoint “12 years of training” and New 52 “7 years of training”.

    • Jack James says:

      I should also add, with the solution I proposed in that last paragraph, modern continuity in Year 18 would only be extended to 2021. I think it fits quite nicely.

    • Hey Jack! Hope you are doing well. I’ll bite on this one. First off, yes my math was wrong, making Bruce even younger at his start as Batman… which does feel a bit off. BWL #1 shows that Bruce could be as old as 41yo in 2019 (although, I think we can still fix things and have him be 39yo). You are correct about All-Star #11 as it shows that Bruce was born BEFORE Falklands. (Falklands War started in April 1982, so I think we can push his birth to 1980 easily.) And Tom King says that Bruce trains with the Memory of the Mountain for a full year at age 16, which I took to mean that he started at age 16. However, I suppose it’s possible that he left earlier.

      Prom can be fanwanked… freshman can go to prom if they want to, right? Rebirth tends to reflect the New 52 in a lot of ways, so seven years does seem to make sense. I’ll juggle some things around.

  3. definativewillg says:

    “Note that Martha is not religious, and will never attend church with them.”

    This may match up with Martha Kane’s Jewish roots, as a biological aunt to Kate Kane, who whilst not orthodox certainly identifies herself as Jewish.

    There are a few articles whizzing about the net somewhere, but there’s also a little reference in a story that says Martha Wayne made the best Kielbasa in Gotham. So, could the Kanes be descended from Polish Jews?

    • YES, forgot about Batwoman’s Judiasm. The Kanes COULD be Jewish, which would help explain her lack of Church attendance. Thanks a million for bringing this up! I’ll definitely add a note and give you credit.

      Interestingly, if Martha was indeed Jewish and even sparsely attended synagogue, Bruce could have easily identified himself as Jewish. But, in this scenario, it would seem that his father’s Christianity filled the role of religion in the strongly secular gap that Martha left for the boy anyway.

      Although, we are never told for certain where Kate’s Judaism comes from. Is Jake Kane Jewish? Or did he simply marry a Jewish woman? This gives cause for speculation that Martha isn’t Jewish. The Waynes and Kanes seem like big-time WASPs, after all. But, you never know. And it is fun to think about!

  4. Anonymous says:

    Regarding the multiple languages that Bruce speaks, I was wondering where it’s shown that he speaks French and Spanish, in what specific issues does he display these languages?

    • Batman, while undercover as the French assassin Crow, speaking French in Bane: Conquest #9-11. He also speaks fluent Portuguese in both Bane: Conquest #2 and Harley Loves Joker #2, which means that he is likely fluent in Spanish as well since they share a lexical similarity of almost 90%.

  5. Jon Doe says:

    Something you might want to add from Batman Vol 3 #1 is that on Bruce’s tenth birthday, he asked Alfred for a katana, but instead he got him wakizashi because it seemed safer and because of this it caused Bruce to start having trust issues well into his Batman career.

  6. Anonymous says:

    You should add in something about Bruce’s ability to perform autopsies, a good example of this is in Heroes in Crisis #2.

    • I have autopsies listed in the Salad Days section, based upon some later issues. I will, however, add Heroes in Crisis, since it is an earlier reference than the ones I already have listed. Thanks!

  7. diego2024 says:

    Dear Collin, I just read Batman #105. Here, Bruce leaves Argentina and travels to Gotham City. Ghost Maker says he “has finished his training”. Should we add it here, or should we stick with the historical fact that Ducard was his last teacher?

    About Argentina, I really love that Tynion gave us that unexpected easter egg. I would like to share an innocent thought about this:
    I don’t think Argentina can offer anything useful to Bruce, at that time when Gaucho did not exist. Except perhaps academic knowledge from certain professionals. About the combat arts, I would say nothing. My first thought was “Ok, here he learned The Tango of Death that we saw in Batman INC v1 #3”. Anyway, it’s just a modest opinion (and probably wrong)

    • Hey Diego, I was a tad nonplussed upon seeing that Argentina thing, but then I immediately dismissed it by imagining Bruce’s flight having a layover in Argentina before going back to the States. Now that you are forcing me to face this head-on, that makes no sense haha. Also, Bruce probably would have a private non-stop flight from wherever he was coming from.

      Since the Rebirth Era only has references to Ducard (do any of them even specifically say that Ducard was last anymore?), I guess Argentina is the new last stop! And your guess is as good as mine as to what Bruce does in Argentina.

      In regard to the Tango del Muerte, I was under the impression from Batman Inc #4 that Batwoman teaches Batman the Tango del Muerte during their early team-up days—meaning that Bruce doesn’t learn that during his salad days. However, things could be different in the Rebirth Era.

      • diego2024 says:

        Wow, Collin ! Thank you very much for including me in reference number 10 ! also with an improved text. It’s the first time I’ve won that HONOR. I will keep it as a souvenir. I owe you ALL my knowledge about the Batman chronology, especially in the New52 era !

  8. Rcn says:

    Hey, a very minor correction: Tango del Muerte is grammaticaly incorrect, as “muerte” is a grammatically feminine word in spanish. It should be “Tango de la Muerte”.

    • Thanks, Rcn. Morrison wrote “Tango del Muerte” specifically in the comic! But after a quick google search, a lot of folks online have corrected Morrison for this very mistake. I’ll make the correction here too. Thanks, again.

  9. Gabriel says:

    Hi Collin, I am a big fan of your work. Wasn’t Bruce 8 when his parents were murdered?

    • James Tynion and Peter Tomasi have both said 8. Tom King has said 10. Scott Snyder has been vague, but seemingly leaned both ways in a non-committal way. In the New 52, Bruce was definitively 10.

      What does it mean? It means that there are two answers that have been given. King has said 10 more than anyone else (and much more loudly), so I’ve gone with that. Now, should the “8” voices begin to take over, I’ll likely make a switch.

  10. Jon Doe says:

    Something that you might want to add is how in Legends of the Dark Knight Vol. 2 #10 Bruce’s birthday is stated to be October 7th. I know that you place his birthday in February based on past incarnations like the silver age, but I thought you might want to add something concrete.

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