Modern YEAR FOUR

1992

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–REFERENCE: In Batman: Shadow of the Bat #31—originally told in Detective Comics #83. Dr. Andy Goodwin and Biff Bannon drug prominent businessmen with a mind-control “hypno-serum,” thus gaining free access to vast wealth. Batman busts Goodwin and Bannon.

Secret Origins Vol. 2 #44 Part 2 by Dan Raspler, Bernie Mireault, Denis Rodier, & Helen Vesik (1989)

Secret Origins Vol. 2 #44 Part 2 by Dan Raspler, Bernie Mireault, Denis Rodier, & Helen Vesik (1989)

–FLASHBACK: From Secret Origins Vol. 2 #44 Part 2. Clayface II (Matt Hagen) attempts a robbery, but Batman is there to stop the slippery blob, chasing him right in front of an oncoming city bus. Clayface II is flattened like a pancake before being handed over to the cops.

–REFERENCE: In Justice League International #13. Batman begins the practice of speaking aloud to himself while working out case theories and doing detective work. He’ll do this on-and-off for the rest of his crimefighting career.

–REFERENCE: In Robin Vol. 2 #153—originally told in World’s Finest Comics #28. Batman apprehends the super-villain known as The Glass Man.

–REFERENCE: In Batman & Robin #16—originally told in Detective Comics #134. Batman constructs a mirror-walled, hallucination-inducing “Truth Chamber” interrogation room deep within the Batcave. After an altercation with Penguin, Batman captures one of his henchmen and uses the bizarre room to simultaneously terrify and question him.

–REFERENCE: In The Batman Files—originally told in Batman #47 Part 1. Selina Kyle disguises herself as “Madame Moderne,” owner of a high-end fashion line, as part of a new scheme to steal furs, clothes, and jewelry from runway shows and fashion expos. Despite the usual smoochy playfulness between the Bat and the Cat, the former exposes the latter’s criminal activity, ending her heist plans. Of course, Batman lets Selina go free in the end.

–REFERENCE: In Flash Vol. 2 #210—originally told in Detective Comics #147. Batman and Alfred build and debut a deepwater bathysphere on an unspecified mission. Afterward, the Bathysphere gets stored in the watery bowels of the Batcave. This reference is based off of Dick Sprang’s 1995 Secrets of the Batcave lithograph, which features a bathysphere that is a mash-up of the bathyspheres shown in Detective Comics #147 and Detective Comics #186.

–REFERENCE: In Batman Incorporated #3—originally told in Batman #56. Batman saves the President of Mantegua from an assassination attempt, while he is on a tour of Gotham. The grateful Prez of the tiny Latin American republic tells the Caped Crusader of the horrible crime problems in his nation and begs him to help out. Batman not only visits, but offer to train Mantegua’s first ever hometown superhero, the “Bat-Hombre.” Unfortunately, the Bat-Hombre is a double-agent working for criminal mastermind El Papagayo (translated as “The Parrot”). Eventually, Batman outs the Bat-Hombre and brings Papagayo to justice.

–FLASHBACK: From Batman: Gotham Knights #7. Bruce walks-in on Alfred making-out with Leslie Thompkins! (This is no surprise to Bruce since he’s already known about Alfie and Leslie for quite some time. Obviously, he’s Batman.) Alfred and Leslie have been on-again-off-again lovers for many years.

Countdown to Final Crisis #22 Part 2 Deadshot Debut

Second feature to Countdown to Final Crisis #22 by Scott Beatty & Freddie E Williams II (2007)

–FLASHBACK: From the second feature to Countdown to Final Crisis #22—and referenced in Deadshot #1. Originally told in Batman #59. High society Gothamite Floyd Lawton becomes Deadshot, a tuxedo-wearing, domino-masked crime-fighter. However, Batman exposes Deadshot as a criminal fraud, putting him behind bars. Batman’s interactions with the debuting Deadshot are highly publicized. Note that Deadshot #1 bears the bad error of depicting Batman wearing his yellow oval costume. This must be ignored.

–REFERENCE: In Batman & Superman: World’s Finest #4.[1] Late March. Batman and Superman try to protect Dr. Harrison Grey and his fiancée Savannah Summers from a violent criminal. Ultimately, Dr. Grey dies. Superman and Batman vow to meet every Spring to commemorate the loss and to reflect on each other’s careers as superheroes. (SPOILER: Dr. Grey is secretly still alive, but he’s missing and stricken with amnesia.) This event was originally told in Batman & Superman: World’s Finest #1, but that story is totally out-of-continuity because it is written as if it takes place in Bat Year One. In order for the subsequent World’s Finest issues to correspond correctly with what occurs chronologically, the “death” of Dr. Grey must occur here and now. (Likewise, Batman & Superman: World’s Finest #2 is written as if takes place in Bat Year Two, which makes that story totally out-of-continuity as well. And the same goes for Batman & Superman: World’s Finest #3. Not to mention, both issues #2 and #3 are full of anachronisms no matter where you place them. Thus, after the dust settles, Dr. Grey’s debut becomes merely a reference from Batman & Superman: World’s Finest #4. Admittedly, most of the Batman & Superman: World’s Finest series, even after the first three issues, contains numerous continuity errors. However, every issue from #4 onward can still be placed effectively with only a few caveats, and therefore, they have been added into the chronology (as you will see in late March of each upcoming year).

–REFERENCE: In Christmas With the Super-Heroes #2. Batman goes on unspecified cases that net him two prizes for the Batcave trophy room: a giant stuffed gorilla and a small rocket.

–FLASHBACK: From Batman #582-583. One of Bruce’s best friends, Jeremy Samuels, also happens to be head of Wayne Enterprises Security and one of Batman’s best information gatherers. In private conversation, Samuels makes mention, in regard to the loss of Bruce’s parents, that he wouldn’t be able to handle losing his own family. Wouldn’t you know, tragedy strikes when Samuels’ wife and child are killed in an accident. Distraught and alone, Samuels turns to reckless crime and winds up getting shot and incarcerated. (Samuels will serve time for twelve years until getting out on parole.) I should note that the flashback from issue #583, which takes place in Year Sixteen says that it occurs “over ten years ago.” This is correct but delusive. It does indeed occur over ten years ago, twelve years ago to be exact.

–FLASHBACK: From Batman: Legends of the Dark Knight #40. Batman interrogates and threatens money-laundering mob bookkeeper Raymond Gallagher. A distraught Raymond kills his wife and commits suicide. Raymond’s son, Steven Gallagher, begins plotting revenge against Batman.

–REFERENCE: In Batman: Shadow of the Bat #7-8, Robin: Year One #2, and Detective Comics #821—originally told in Batman #63-64. Killer Moth (Drury Walker) debuts. Killer Moth’s first appearance is a mash-up of his original few appearances in the Golden Age. The new gaudy super-villain runs a bogus protection racket, going by several aliases, including “Cameron Van Cleer” and “Laszlo Furlenbach.” Batman easily busts Killer Moth and his gang. Killer Moth quickly escapes custody, kidnapping Bruce Wayne to discover that he is Batman! However, Killer Moth is shot and receives a serious cranial injury. Subsequent surgery saves his life, but at the cost of severe brain trauma and loss of significant portions of his memory, including knowledge of Batman’s secret ID. Batman keeps Killer Moth’s mask/helmet as a trophy for the Batcave.

FB to 2nd ft to Batman Gotham Knights #42 Black and White ASHEMORE KIDNAPPING CASE

Second feature to Batman: Gotham Knights #42 by Dean Motter (2003)

–FLASHBACK: From the B&W second feature to Batman: Gotham Knights #42. After a detailed briefing with Captain Gordon, Batman swings over the many rooftop gargoyles of Gotham City in search of the kidnapped young heir to the wealthy Ashmore family fortune. Eventually, the Caped Crusader finds and busts a couple devil mask-wearing abductors, rescuing the Ashmore girl and safely returning her to her worried family.

–REFERENCE: In Seven Soldiers: Bulleteer #3—originally told in Batman #69. Selina’s estranged brother Karl Kyle appears as a new criminal called King of Cats. Karl Kyle’s publicity stunt will be a one time affair that will land him in jail for the better part of a decade, following which we won’t really see or hear from him much.

–REFERENCE: In Robin: Year One #2 and The Batman Files—originally told in Detective Comics #184. Pyromaniac super-villain Firefly (Garfield Lynns) debuts against Batman. The new foe wields both flame and an array of trick lights that ostensibly remove colors from the visible spectrum. Despite some success by Firefly at first, Batman gains the upper hand by turning the villain’s own light rays against him. While not actually all shown on our timeline, note that Firefly will make sporadic appearances over the course of the next few years, sometimes using light-based weaponry instead of pyrotechnics.

–REFERENCE: In Swamp Thing Vol. 2 Annual #3—originally told in Batman #75. George “Boss” Dyke is executed by the state, after which a scientist in his employ revives his brain and transplants it into the body of a giant gorilla. Dyke, now going by “Gorilla Boss,” terrorizes Gotham, but is eventually defeated by Batman. Gorilla Boss gets a special “cell” at the zoo.

–REFERENCE: In Batman Incorporated #3-4—originally told in Detective Comics #215. Batman meets Argentinian superhero El Gaucho (Santiago Vargas). Gaucho has been heavily inspired by the Dark Knight and has nothing but respect for him. However, Gaucho also meets Bruce Wayne and can’t stand the wimp. Unknown to Batman, Gaucho is a top secret agent of the UN secret intelligence organization known as Spyral. As referenced in Flash Annual #13, Gaucho himself is a national hero in Argentina and will serve as the personal inspiration for the superhero team known as Súper Malón.

–FLASHBACK: From Batman #561. Batman takes-out three bad dudes that hold a woman at knifepoint in an alley.

Second feature to Countdown to Final Crisis #19 Scarecrow FB

Second feature to Countdown to Final Crisis #19 by Scott Beatty & Kelley Jones (2007)

–FLASHBACK: From the second feature to Countdown to Final Crisis #19. Batman fights an escaped scythe-wielding Scarecrow, who sprays him with a heavy dose of Fear Gas. The ever-resilient Dark Knight shakes off the negative effects of the vapor and busts Scarecrow.

–REFERENCE: In Batman #669—originally told in Batman #65. June. Batman meets the Swedish superhero Wingman. Batman likes him so much, he will train him sporadically for the entire summer. That training begins now and will continue until September—we’ll have to imagine the sessions occurring randomly on our timeline for the next three months. Wingman will, many years later, dubiously claim that he invented the whole “Dark Knight” vigilante concept before Batman, which is totally untrue.

–REFERENCE: In Flash Vol. 2 #210 and Batman: Gotham After Midnight #7 Part 2—originally told in Batman #86. Batman and Alfred build an all-new high-tech Bat-submarine for use on an unspecified case. While they are focused on aqua adventuring, Batman and Alfred also tailor special gear for underwater use, including several wetsuits, drysuits, scuba suits, and waterproof costumes. They also construct a diver propulsion sea scooter.

–REFERENCE: In Batman: Gotham After Midnight #7 Part 2. On behalf of Wayne Enterprises, Bruce files a lawsuit against Dunkirk Industries for improperly disposing of toxic chemicals. Dunkirk Industries is owned and operated by rival tycoon Richard Dunkirk (whom Bruce has known since childhood).

–REFERENCE: In Batman: Black and White #4 Part 1 and Detective Comics #832—originally told in Detective Comics #253. Batman apprehends the thrill-seeking Terrible Trio, which consists of The Shark (Sherman Shackley), The Vulture (Gunther Volper), and The Fox (Warren Fisk).

Batman: Legends of the Dark Knight #161 by John Ostrander, David Lopez, Dan Green, & James Sinclair (2003)

Batman: Legends of the Dark Knight #161 by John Ostrander, David Lopez, Dan Green, & James Sinclair (2003)

–“Loyalties” by John Ostrander/David Lopez (Batman: Legends of the Dark Knight #159-161) November 2002 to January 2003
After Captain Gordon and Batman bring down one-shot villain Atilla, Jim Gordon’s Chicago past comes back to haunt him. A bunch of crooked cops kidnap Jim and his family (wife Barbara and son James Junior) and drag them to Chi-town where Jim is tortured in front of their very eyes. Batman travels to the Windy City and in an attempt to find and rescue the captain and his family. Appearing in this story is Jim’s niece and future Batgirl, Barbara “Babs” Gordon. Babs has recently turned fourteen-years-old, although she is incorrectly drawn as if she is a bit older than that, so maybe she’s an early bloomer. Babs is currently living with her brother (James Jr) and mom (Thelma Jennifer Gordon) in Chicago. (Babs’ mom, already previously established in canon as Thelma, is referred to as Jennifer in this story, so let’s assume, as I have done here, that she is simply going by her middle name.) While Batman saves Jim and his family, a panicked Thelma winds up in a fatal car accident. Shortly thereafter, Jim tells Batman that he has separated from his wife. This may be true, but it’s misleading since this certainly isn’t their final separation. Considering the traumatic impact of what has occurred, it makes sense for Jim and Barbara to take a marital break, even a short one. Before we can move on, we must address the big ugly continuity elephant in the room—Jim’s younger brother (and Babs’ dad), Roger Gordon. First, we’ll eventually find out that Jim had an affair with Thelma or possibly dated her right before his bro did (it’s complicated), so Babs is likely Jim’s actual daughter anyway. However, we won’t learn this for a long time, so we won’t cross that Maury Povich-esque bridge until we come to it. More importantly, writer John Ostrander pens this story as if Roger has clearly been dead for a few years. This is a direct retcon of Secret Origins Vol. 2 #20, which previously had Thelma dying in a car accident, after which Roger cares for Babs for years until his own alcoholism-related death. Ostrander has Roger dying first, after which Thelma cares for Babs until her own death by car accident (which, as mentioned above, occurs in this very item). Thus, we have Ostrander’s “Loyalties” and Secret Origins Vol. 2 #20 directly contradicting each other. (One story has Roger die first and then Thelma, while the other has Thelma die first and then Roger.) Notably, thanks to various retcons, much of Secret Origins Vol. 2 #20 no longer fits neatly onto the timeline, only retaining a general historical framework from which we can glean information. In any case, the aforementioned contradictions force us to choose a particular direction. Outside of ignoring Secret Origins Vol. 2 #20 altogether, our options are as follows: One, we can mesh “Loyalties” and Secret Origins Vol. 2 #20 together, acknowledging a retconned version of events where an alcoholic Roger is alive but currently absent from this item due to being separated from his wife and family. Then, after Thelma’s death by car accident, Babs will continue to live under the care of Roger until his alcoholism-related death a couple weeks later, at which time she will go into brief probate care until Jim adopts her. Or two, we can mesh”Loyalties” and Secret Origins Vol. 2 #20 together, acknowledging a retconned version of events where Roger has already died at some point within the past few years. Then, after Thelma’s death by car accident, Babs will go into probate care until Jim adopts her in just over a month’s time. It’s your personal headcanon call.[2]

–REFERENCE: In Batman: Dark Victory #0 and Batman: Night Cries. Jim Gordon is promoted to commissioner. Batman isn’t directly involved in this item, but he’d be well aware of this momentous news. Note that The Batman Files‘ narrative in regard to Gordon’s ascent through the ranks of the GCPD jibes perfectly with our timeline.

Batman: Night Cries by Archie Goodwin & Scott Hampton (1992)

Batman: Night Cries by Archie Goodwin & Scott Hampton (1992)

–Batman: Night Cries by Archie Goodwin/Scott Hampton (1992)
Night Cries is a dark and beautifully illustrated graphic novel that realistically shows the painful final crumbling of Jim and Barbara Gordon’s marriage and how it affects their son James. (Following the recent “Loyalties” arc, Jim and Barbara briefly separated, but are now trying to work things out.) I definitely suggest reading this, as it shows essential character development for both the overworked James Senior and the creepy soon-to-be-three-year-old James Junior. Note, however, some errors: First, Batman is shown already wearing his yellow oval costume, which is definitely incorrect and must be ignored. Second, James Junior is referred to as six-years-old, but that’s impossible. And third, this arc takes place amid wintry weather, but it’s definitely not wintertime.[3] Here’s the lowdown. While investigating a drug cartel, Batman and Commissioner Gordon notice a common thread in a series of murders involving child abuse and the death of the abusive parents. The two hunt for the serial killer, but Batman gets accused of being the serial killer. Concurrently, Gordon comes to terms with abuse in his own past and watches as his marriage and connection to his son, which have been rocky for the past year, both fizzle completely. Eventually, Batman takes down several key members of the drug cartel (of whom he’s been long aware of thanks to his vast criminal database on the Bat-computer network). He also clears his name and exposes Dr. Bryan McLean as the serial killer. McLean commits suicide. In the end, Barbara files for divorce and takes James Junior to Chicago. Next year, Barbara and Jim will try to reconcile their differences, with Barbara and James Junior temporarily returning to Gotham, but we’ll get to that when we get to it.

–Batman: Dark Victory #0 by Jeph Loeb/Tim Sale (1999)[4]
Late July. Gotham DA Janice Porter tells newly appointed Commissioner Jim Gordon that she will try to press brutality charges against Batman and that she plans on re-opening the Holiday case. She also threatens Gordon, saying that he will eventually have to pay a price for working hand-in-hand with a notorious illegal vigilante. Gordon tells Batman he misses Harvey Dent, but Batman tells him to forget about the past.

–FLASHBACK: From the second feature to 52 #28—and referenced in Batman Confidential #21 and The Batman Files. Originally told in Detective Comics #311. Big game hunter Thomas Blake, still obsessed with the Catman serial killer that shares his exact same name, decides to become the new Catman, dressing in a gaudy cat costume and going on a robbery spree. With help from Commissioner Gordon, the Dark Knight busts Catman. We’ll be seeing plenty of this Jellicle villain down the line as he will become a permanent fixture in Batman’s rogues gallery. In case there’s any confusion in regard to Catman’s origin, author Matthew Manning, via The Batman Files, fills in a continuity gap here since there isn’t an “official” Modern Age Catman origin that isn’t merely a flashback or reference. Manning fills this gap, a bit messily, by mashing up Catman’s Silver Age debut (Detective Comics #311) with the non-canon “Heat” by Doug Moench/Russ Heath (LOTDK #46-49), creating the copycat thing we have on our timeline here. Note that Manning says Catman II debuts one year after Catman I, but that cannot be the case. It’s been two years since the original Catman killer.

Batman: Dark Victory #1 by Jeph Loeb, Tim Sale, & Gregory Wright (1999) OPENING SCENE

Batman: Dark Victory #1 by Jeph Loeb, Tim Sale, & Gregory Wright (1999)

–Batman: Dark Victory #1 Part 1 by Jeph Loeb/Tim Sale (1999)
August 2-3. Batman catches himself up to speed on the hierarchy of Gotham City’s Italian mob scene. The current ruling “Five Families” are the Falcone Mob, Maroni Mob, Viti Mob (having moved into Gotham from Chicago), Gazzo Mob, and Skeevers Mob (the first Black family to ascend into the Five Families, which has surely ruffled the feathers of other highly-active Sicilian groups like the Galantes). Having taken the reins as leader of the Falcone Mob, Sofia Falcone Gigante has full control of the Five Families. Soon after, at the cemetery, Batman and Catwoman separately scope out the Five Families as its members attend a birthday tribute to the late Carmine Falcone. Gangsters Sofia Falcone Gigante, Anthony “Tony” Zucco (a made man in the Falcone Mob), Lucia Viti (head of the Viti Mob), Bobby Gazzo (head of the Gazzo Mob), Edward Skeevers (brother of Jefferson Skeevers and head of the Skeevers Mob), and Umberto Maroni and Pino Maroni (twin sons of Sal Maroni and co-heads of the Maroni Mob) are present as well. Exposed, Batman and Catwoman become targets of a wild mobster shootout. Batman and Catwoman dodge bullets and flee the scene. The next day, at Wayne Manor, Selina introduces Bruce to Carmine’s other son, Mario Falcone. Having studied up on the Falcone family, Bruce already knows a lot about Mario’s shady history. He tells Selina and Mario to kick rocks.

–The Creeper Vol. 2 #2-6 by Steve Niles/Justiniano (October 2006 to March 2007)
Beware The Creeper! Gotham talk show host Jack Ryder is turned into the Creeper by the evil Dr. Vincent Yatz, who injects him with a mix of Joker Venom and nano-cell technology serum. The Creeper meets Batman when the former apprehends the murderous super-villain known as The Axeman. Soon after, Batman learns the Creeper’s secret identity. Meanwhile, Yatz, in league with the Joker, has hijacked a bus full of inmates and stolen them away to an abandoned island prison ten miles outside of Gotham. Having turned the inmates into monsters, Yatz sends them after the Creeper and talk show host Vera Sweet. Batman saves Vera, which outs Yatz as a criminal and exposes the location of his lair. There, Batman teams-up with the Creeper. While the Creeper handles nearly a hundred of Yatz’s monster-men (I guess Yatz must have hijacked multiple buses?), Batman apprehends Joker. Yatz’s evil science experiments are stopped, but he evades captivity. Later, Batman synthesizes a cure for the Creeper’s condition, handing it over to him. On his show, Ryder publicly outs Yatz as a criminal. He considers taking the cure but ultimately decides he likes being the Creeper, tossing the cure in the trash. Meanwhile, the GCPD busts a grinning Yatz, who has succumbed to time-release Joker Venom in his bloodstream.

–REFERENCE: From Batman: Legends of the Dark Knight #154. Batman makes upgrades to the Batmobile, adding the ability to shoot quick-drying adhesive spray out of its sides and numerous defense mechanisms for when it’s left parked on its own somewhere. Batman also puts an over-the-shoulder net-cannon into the trunk.

–“Armageddon Inferno: Seeds of Doom” by John Ostrander (Armageddon: Inferno #1(April to July 1992)
August 21. Note that item doesn’t feature 1992 Batman at all, instead focusing on 2001 Batman. From the year 2001, Batman is sent through time to present day Russia on behalf of Waverider (Matthew Ryder) to battle Abraxis and his army of Daemen. In the former Soviet Union, Batman’s future self from nine years forward meets up with another of Waverunner’s recruits, the Creeper.[5] Soon after arriving in Russia, future Batman and present day Creeper are joined by a time-displaced Ultra Boy, who is a member of the 30th century’s Legion of Super-Heroes (also spelled “Legion of Superheroes”—sans hyphen), and a time-displaced Firestorm (superhero fusion of Ronnie Raymond and Dr. Martin Stein) from 1998. Next to join the motley crew is a time-displaced Spectre from 2001. (The Spectre is the physical embodiment of the wrath and vengeance of the single Judeo-Christian/Islamic god named God. While there exists a near infinite pantheon in the DCU, God being merely one of this never-ending theophany, only the brash and egocentric deity of the Abrahamic Faiths has the audacity to call himself “God”—although, depending on one’s religion, he has various names, including “The Presence,” “The Voice,” “The Lord,” “Allah” in Arabic, “YHWH,” “Jehovah,” or “Elohim” in Hebrew. Despite acting as God’s wrathful hand of justice, the Spectre must be held within a human host vessel or he cannot complete his divine work on Earth. “God’s wrath and vengeance” functions as a sentient entity unto itself: a former angel named Aztar, now simply called Wrath. Only when Aztar/Wrath combines with a human host, in this case Jim Corrigan, does the Spectre take shape.) The heroes fight Abraxis, eventually defeating him and returning to their correct eras. Notably, the fight against Abraxis is also shown via flashback from Armageddon Inferno #4.

–REFERENCE: From Batman: Gotham After Midnight #10. Bruce hires the famous Madeleine Sophie to be his personal chocolatier. Who knew he had such a sweet tooth?

–REFERENCE: From Batman: Legends of the Dark Knight #154. Batman deals with the sibling thief duo known as the Mingh Brothers.

–NOTE: In Secret Origins Vol. 2 #20 and Batman Confidential #30. Fourteen-year-old Babs’ probate care period ends and she is officially adopted by Jim Gordon. Prior to his death, Babs’ father Roger (Jim’s younger brother) had long suggested that Babs live with Jim in Gotham (as referenced in Batman: Gotham Knights #6), and now it’s finally happening. Depending on your personal headcanon, Babs has either been in probate care since her mom Thelma died in in a car accident just over a month ago or since her dad Roger died from alcoholism-related surgical complications a couple weeks ago. This is a personal headcanon call, but either way, both of Babs parents’ are now dead, and her legal guardian is now Jim. For more details about this fuzzy continuity situation, see the “Loyalties” (Batman: Legends of the Dark Knight #159-161) entry above.

–REFERENCE: In Batman Confidential #30. Keeping up his playboy appearances, Bruce goes on a date with someone named Melanie, who will begin telling her friends that he’s a jerk.

–“Good Cop… Bad Cop” by Andrew Kriesberg/Scott McDaniel (Batman Confidential #29-30) July to August 2009
This is the sequel to “Do You Understand These Rights?,” featuring Geoff Shancoe aka “Bad Cop,” a Gotham policeman whose life was ruined by the Joker in the aforementioned arc. (If you don’t consider “Do You Understand These Rights?” as canon, then you should skip this one too, especially since it has even worse continuity than the first series. “Good Cop… Bad Cop” is incomprehensibly written as if it occurs almost immediately after “Do You Understand These Rights?,” but that’s simply impossible for reasons we’ll address below.) After being psychologically poked and prodded by Joker (who is inexplicably in a cell adjacent to Shancoe’s), Shancoe escapes from Arkham Asylum and murders a recruit at the Gotham Police Academy. Bruce departs from a random lover post-coitus to heed the call of Bat-signal. After a brief confrontation with Joker at Arkham (where Joker reveals he helped Shancoe escape), Batman is caught up to speed by Jim Gordon (incorrectly referred to as “Lieutenant”) at GCPD HQ. Gordon also tells the Dark Knight that the debuting The Ventriloquist and his living dummy Scarface have been apprehended by the GCPD. (Batman won’t actually meet the Ventriloquist and Scarface for another seven years!) Shortly thereafter, Batman chases Shancoe away from the Gotham Police Academy, where we see the debut of police trainee Renee Montoya. Outside, Gordon is shown talking to Commissioner Gillian Loeb, which is one of the most outrageous continuity errors on our entire timeline—an error that must be summarily ignored. Later, Shancoe stirs-up a messy scene with Gordon and his newly adopted daughter Babs, who are trying to have a fun outing at an arcade. Babs has just moved in with her dad and they are already referring to each other as father and daughter. Batman saves Gordon and his daughter, meeting Babs for the very first time. At the end of this tale, Joker escapes from Arkham.

–Batman: Dark Victory #1 Part 2 by Jeph Loeb/Tim Sale (1999)
September. Batman, in disguise as an Arkham Asylum guard, keeps close tabs on Alberto Falcone as he meets with Mario Falcone and DA Porter. At the Falcone penthouse, Sofia Falcone Gigante chats with her partners (Umberto Maroni, Pino Maroni, and Angelo Mirti). Later, Commissioner Gordon talks about the good old days with Chief Miles Clancy O’Hara—the comic book debut of the Batman ’66 character! Chief O’Hara mentions the Wayne murder having never been solved, but, of course, this is a continuity error (caused by a status quo at the time of this item’s release that was later retconned). Batman also converses with Gordon and then Catwoman.

–REFERENCE: In Batman #669. September. Batman’s three month-long training program with Wingman ends now.

–REFERENCE: In Titans Vol. 2 #17 and Young Justice #50—originally told in Detective Comics #261. Dr. X (Simon Ecks) and his symbiotic partner Double X—together known simply as Dr. Double X—fight the Dark Knight. Ecks winds up behind bars.

Batman: Legends of the Dark Knight #104 by James Robinson & Paul Johnson (1998) SPOOK DEBUT

Batman: Legends of the Dark Knight #104 by James Robinson & Paul Johnson (1998)

–“Spook” by James Robinson/Paul Johnson (Batman: Legends of the Dark Knight #102-104) January to March 1998
Enter The Spook! For this arc, writer James Robinson totally rips-off a hokey Mike Baron-scripted Batman Annual whodunnit from 1988. There’s even a red herring character named “Baron” in Robinson’s version. Okay, here’s a synopsis. Bruce attends a weekend business retreat held specially for heads of major corporations at a secluded ski resort mansion. After everyone gathers for the night, the power goes out and one of the guests winds up dead, prompting Bruce to switch into Batman detective mode. The Dark Knight fights the debuting Spook and his henchman Darwin. After more Clue-ing, CEO deaths, and Darwin’s death, the Spook blows up the house, sending the few survivors fleeing on a private jet. When the Spook shows-up aboard the plane, Batman fights him again, but the new villain disappears. Batman then exposes one of the survivors, Ben Yates, as the Spook’s accomplice.

–Batman: Dark Victory #1 Part 3 by Jeph Loeb/Tim Sale (1999)
Halloween. Batman has a conversation with Two-Face—this is Batman’s second visit to meet with Two-Face in Arkham Asylum, although Two-Face seems to have no recollection of the prior visit, probably since he was in electric shock therapy at the time. During the visit, Umberto Maroni, Pino Maroni, and Tony Zucco attack Arkham with explosive force, springing Joker, Scarecrow, Calendar Man, and Two-Face. Since Zucco and the Maroni twins are in league with Sofia Falcone Gigante, Batman assumes that Sofia has ordered the prison break, but Two-Face is secretly the one actually behind it. Batman interrogates Sofia, who tells him to piss off.

–FLASHBACK: From Secret Origins Vol. 2 #20 and Birds of Prey: Batgirl/Catwoman #1. A fourteen-year-old Barbara Gordon spies on her dad Jim at home when Batman pays him a special visit to report on the details of corruption within the GCPD. Batman spots Babs and even leaves her a little note telling her to stay out of trouble. This event will inspire Babs to become a superhero. PS. The highly-retconned Secret Origins Vol. 2 #20 says Babs is thirteen-years-old when she witnesses this Batman/Gordon meeting whereas she should be fourteen.

–Batman: Dark Victory #1 Part 4 by Jeph Loeb/Tim Sale (1999)
November. DA Porter successfully procures Alberto Falcone’s release (due to reasons of legal insanity) into Mario Falcone’s custody, much to the chagrin of Commissioner Gordon and Batman. Meanwhile, Carmine Falcone’s severed finger is mailed to the Falcone penthouse and someone steals all of DA Porter’s case-files pertaining to Two-Face. Across town, Chief O’Hara is found murdered, hanged to death. Batman and Gordon investigate. Attached to Chief O’Hara’s body is a blood-scrawled hangman letter game on a newspaper clipping about Alberto’s release. Gotham has a brand new serial killer called The Hangman on its hands.

Batman: Dark Victory #2 by Jeph Loeb, Tim Sale, & Gregory Wright (2000)

Batman: Dark Victory #2 by Jeph Loeb, Tim Sale, & Gregory Wright (2000)

–Batman: Dark Victory #2 by Jeph Loeb/Tim Sale (2000)
November. Batman questions Riddler about the O’Hara murder and gives him the “hang man” puzzle to solve. Later, Batman chats with Alfred.[6] Batman then again meets up with Riddler, who tells the Dark Knight, “You can’t play hang man by yourself” and “this is a game being played by two people,” implying that there may be two killers. Meanwhile, a mystery person has declared war on the Falcone family, starting things off with a bang by stealing Carmine Falcone’s corpse. The police offer help, but the Falcones turn down any assistance. At a mansion not far from Wayne Manor, Alberto Falcone broods while under house arrest, complete with electronic ankle bracelet. Bruce and Selina celebrate a sexy Thanksgiving together, while DA Porter shares a sexy Thanksgiving with none other than Two-Face! On the outskirts of town, the “Hangman” strikes again, murdering former police commissioner Gillian Loeb (!) and leaving behind another puzzle.

–“Colossus” by Mike Baron/Bill Reinhold (Batman: Legends of the Dark Knight #154-155) June to July 2002
Bruce becomes the new chairman of the Gotham Preservation Society, familiarizing himself with the long history of a never-built downtown civic center designed by the late starchitect Randall Hockstead, who designed several of Gotham’s most famous—and strangest—buildings a few decades ago. Bruce begins adding several of these buildings—some of which are now derelict—onto a list of protected “historic treasures.” Bruce also meets and befriends the rather unsavory members of the society, including Hockstead’s widow Giselle, and begins pushing for the completion of the civic center. Despite the protests of anti-gentrification groups, Bruce prepares for and hosts a massive celebrity fundraiser in support of the project at an overstuffed Wayne Foundation building. When a reporter brings up Hockstead’s track record of unsafe labor practices, including hundreds of deaths in the 1940s and 1950s, Bruce dismisses them, citing that President Jefferson was an accomplished gentleman despite owning slaves. Yeesh. The implication here is that Bruce was previosly unaware of Hockstead’s sordid past, but I’m not sure if Bruce’s ugly commentary is what he truly believes or just him playing the role of bourgeois asshole. I’m assuming (and hoping) the latter, especially since he makes fun of the reporter’s age while stuffing his face with ice cream. During the event, the lights go out, during which Humboldt Crane (an electrical contractor that partnered with the Hocksteads for years) is murdered. After doing some more research on the Bat-computer, Batman stops the Mingh Brothers and their henchmen from robbing Crane Electronics. Shortly thereafter, Batman is attacked and knocked out by Crane’s killer, a jacked-up dude in a garish mask and bondage outfit. When he comes to, Batman finds that Giselle has also been killed. Eventually, Batman discovers the killer is Rubio Dolor, who murdered the Crane and Giselle as revenge because his grandfather died at one of their unsafe construction sites. Batman fights Dolor, who winds up falling to his death from the top of a tower. (This definitely feels like an official self-defense killing.) The next day, Bruce announces that the civic center project will continue, but sans the involvement of any corrupt contractors. If these one-shot whodunnit revenge tales are beginning to get tiresome, don’t worry, you aren’t alone.

–REFERENCE: In the second feature to Detective Comics #782. Late November—the anniversary of Batman’s parents’ deaths. Batman continues his annual tradition, placing two roses at the site of his folks’ double murder.

Batman: Dark Victory #3 by Jeph Loeb, Tim Sale, & Gregory Wright (2000)

Batman: Dark Victory #3 by Jeph Loeb, Tim Sale, & Gregory Wright (2000)

–Batman: Dark Victory #3 by Jeph Loeb/Tim Sale (2000)
December. Former GCPD cop Arnold Flass is the next victim of the Hangman, killed and left strung up outside of Tony Zucco’s club. Batman interrogates Zucco, who leads him to Scarecrow. In the spirit of current events, Scarecrow has decided to debut his alternate “noose necktie” costume, itself modeled off of his terrifying post-season three look from Batman the Animated Series. While fighting Scarecrow, Batman inhales a new form of Fear Gas (as we learn in the second part of Dark Victory #7), one that will lie hidden within his system, causing him to grow an intense fear in regard to forming relationships. This is bad news for Selina. Eventually, Scarecrow gets the better of Batman and escapes. On Christmas Eve, Batman questions Alberto Falcone about the Hangman murders before returning to Wayne Manor to spend the holiday with Selina. Gordon and Porter meet with Mario Falcone, who tells them that Alberto has been “hearing voices.”

–“The Secret” by Joshua Hale Fialkov/Adriana Melo (Superman/Batman #85-87) August to October 2011
Gotham Gazette reporter Garrett Remington meets with Bruce and Lucius Fox, accusing Bruce of being Batman. When rumor gets out that he knows Batman’s secret ID and is planning on running a story, Remington is murdered, sending shockwaves through the newspaper industry and deeply impacting Superman and his so-called Superman-Family (Lois Lane, Jimmy Olsen, and Daily Planet editor-in-chief Perry White) in Metropolis. In Gotham City, Batman searches Remington’s apartment and, upon learning that Remington had indeed discovered his secret, torches the place. Afterward, Superman meets Commissioner Gordon for the very first time. Batman then meets with Superman and explains that Remington had linked Batman to WayneTech through a mechanical part patent that Bruce had overlooked in his first year when he was secretly patenting thousands of parts to later use as Bat-gadgetry. Remington’s notes also proved that Bruce stole tech from his own company and shareholders (before Bruce became majority stockholder). While Batman interrogates Gotham Gazette chief Martin Mayne, Clark (on assignment for the Daily Planet) interviews Lucius Fox, who explains that it is public knowledge that some of Batman’s toys are from WayneTech. Fox further explains that whenever tech is stolen, Bruce reimburses the company with his own personal money. Bruce, as Matches Malone, rustles up some info at Remington’s former local dive bar hangout and discovers that Martin Mayne had been receiving big payoffs from a secret party in exchange for information associated with big stories. Who is the secret party? An escaped Joker, of course. And now Mayne has sold out Clark the same way he sold out Remington. Joker travels to Metropolis and tries to kill Clark, but the Dark Knight is close behind and “saves” Clark, who can’t become Superman in front of an onlooking crowd. Batman also saves the entire Daily Planet staff and apprehends Joker. Bruce then purchases the Gotham Gazette and immediately fires Mayne.

–REFERENCE: In a flashback from the B&W second feature to Batman: Gotham Knights #41. Batman begins a policy of letting first time-offenders go free and keeping tabs on them afterward. Batman will compile a long list of smalltime crooks to keep an eye on, starting now. While we won’t see these check-ups and check-ins with any of these small-fries on our timeline (except for one), we can imagine them as happening sporadically for decades to come.

–“A Matter of Trust” (Batman: Black and White Vol. 2 TPB Part 3) by Chris Claremont/Steve Rude/Mark Buckingham (October 2003)
Bruce’s friend Dr. Robbin Carnahan asks him to babysit her twin boys for a night. Being godfather to the twins, Bruce obliges but is quickly in way over his head as the unruly boys run circles around him. Bruce resists the urge to call Alfred for help, buckles down, and tries to play nanny, getting peed-on for his troubles. Eventually, Bruce falls asleep with the boys in his arms. (Note that Batman: Black and White Vol. 2 TPB Part 1 and Batman: Black and White Vol. 2 TPB Part 2 are non-canon. Part 1 features a Modern Age present that seems to harken pack to a Golden Age past in regard to Joker’s origins. Part 2 is a comedy story featuring a joke Batman called Batsman.)

–REFERENCE: In Batman versus Predator III: Blood Ties #4 and Batman #657. Batman takes down Joker in a plot that involves a pair of giant dice, which he keeps for the trophy room. Since we will see (and have already seen) various bizarre trophies on display in the Batcave, we can assume that Batman will have other adventures in the coming years that will result in the obtaining of other trophies, such as portraits, statues, and more random oversized items. While not listed, we must assume that these adventures that net trophies must be invisibly scattered throughout the chronology.

–REFERENCE: In Crisis on Infinite Earths #11-12 and “The Truth” (Mythology: The DC Art of Alex Ross). Batman teams-up with Superman to face-off against one of the Man of Steel’s biggest rivals, Brainiac.

Batman/Huntress: Cry for Blood #4 by Greg Rucka, Rick Burchett, & Tatjana Wood (2000) HELENA DEBUT

Batman/Huntress: Cry for Blood #4 by Greg Rucka, Rick Burchett, & Tatjana Wood (2000)

–FLASHBACK: From Batman/Huntress: Cry for Blood #4. December. Batman crashes the Christmas holiday party of mob boss Junior Galante (aka Pasquale Galante Jr), roughing up Galante and his henchmen. A sixteen-year-old Helena Bertinelli, whose entire family (the Bertinelli mob family) was killed in a mob hit years ago, attends the party and is wonderstruck by the Caped Crusader. Inspired by this very moment, Helena will one day become the crime-fighter known as Huntress. Notably, writer Greg Rucka (via Helena’s narration) tells us that Junior Galante has “just regained control of the mob in Gotham.” Of course, the Galante Mob isn’t even currently an officially recognized member of the Five Families, which is still fully controlled by the Falcones at the moment. So, Helena’s narration must simply mean that Junior has just officially become head of his own family, following internal strife.

–Booster Gold Vol. 2 #25 by Dan Jurgens/Norm Rapmund (December 2009)
Christmas. Time-traveling superhero Booster Gold (Michael Jon Carter) takes an adult Dick Grayson (from the year 2010) to present day, allowing him to clandestinely watch the final Christmas he was able to spend with his parents before their untimely murders.

–REFERENCE: In The Judas Coin. Bruce begins the practice of collecting a copy of the Gotham Gazette from a newsie named Gene, who works in a stand outside of Wayne Tower.

–REFERENCE: In JLA Incarnations #3. Zatanna Zatara, daughter of John Zatara, debuts as a superhero. Bruce has known Zatanna for a long time. They are very close friends and have been ever since they were little children.

Batman: Dark Victory #4 by Jeph Loeb, Tim Sale, & Gregory Wright (2000)

Batman: Dark Victory #4 by Jeph Loeb, Tim Sale, & Gregory Wright (2000)

–Batman: Dark Victory #4 Part 1 by Jeph Loeb/Tim Sale (2000)
December 31. Batman visits Solomon Grundy in the sewers. Grundy leads Batman to Two-Face’s underground hideout, but it’s rigged with explosives, which detonate and nearly kill the Dark Knight. Batman then unsuccessfully chases after Two-Face through the sewers, blowing-off a date with Selina in the process. Above ground, Selina uses her newfound free time to suit up as Catwoman and harass Sofia Falcone Gigante. Concurrently, Branden (ex-lieutenant and former head of the SWAT team) is found murdered in Sal Maroni’s restaurant. Branden is the latest victim of the mysterious Hangman.

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  1. [1]COLLIN COLSHER: Much of the internet incorrectly labels Karl Kesel’s Batman & Superman: World’s Finest series as a follow-up volume of World’s Finest Comics (1941-1986). I’m not sure why this is the case. Yes, both contain the words “World’s Finest” in their title, but they have two different titles, meaning two different series entirely.
  2. [2]HEARTHESNAP: Melding “Loyalties” and Secret Origins Vol. 2 #20 together is the correct choice, but DC is just confusing when they do stuff like this. I’m reminded of the Mr. Freeze continuity fiasco in regard to his origins. Though, sometimes, each contradicting version features a very good narrative, the multiple stories form a messy jumble continuity-wise. When reading/building the Batman Chronology Project’s timeline, it can become a tad bit confusing the way “Loyalties” and Secret Origins Vol. 2 #20 are presented, but DC sure did not help matters. In any case, “Loyalties” holds more canonical weight than Secret Origins Vol. 2 #20. Much of the entire Secret Origin series was later retconned, making its tales function similarly to Elseworlds stories. If we take Secret Origins at face value, it’ll wreck a lot of continuity. For the most part, we should ignore the majority of the Secret Origins series unless (as is the case with the story of Babs’ parents) it is something directly referenced by other canonical stories. As such, as mentioned above, we must meld the fuzzy canon of Secret Origins Vol. 2 #20 with the stronger canon of “Loyalties,” although it’s certainly not an easy task to accomplish.
  3. [3]ELIAS M FRIERE: Night Cries goes between The Long Halloween and Dark Victory because Jim Gordon has just become commissioner and is still getting used to his new responsibilities (“Haven’t gotten the hang yet of mixing police hours with political banquets.” [. . .] “Delegate the work. You’re an executive now, not a street cop, Commissioner” [. . .] His wife Barbara saying, “You’re police commissioner. Off the streets at last. That should be making our life better now.”). Plus, Merkel is still alive. (He is killed in Dark Victory.) As you’ve stated, the only errors are Batman’s costume (wrong yellow oval costume) and James Junior’s age (said to be six-years-old). James Junior’s age is actually just under three-years-old—and at this age, he can still walk and pick up a gun as detailed in the story, so that retcon doesn’t affect narrative at all.
  4. [4]COLLIN COLSHER: Dark Victory, like its predecessor Long Halloween, prevents a myriad of other tales from fitting in neatly and causes some awkward placements. However, for the purposes of remaining as true to the original text as possible, I have treated Dark Victory‘s narrative as pure gospel and have tried not to compress or edit the story. Therefore, Dark Victory, which starts here, is included fully, amidst various other overlapping tales. For an alternate condensed timeline check out the Internet Archive of “The Unauthorized Chronology of the DCU” by Chris J Miller, which has Dark Victory compressed down to a mere couple of months and has moved scenes all around. But what is Dark Victory and why do I hold it in such high regard? It’s the official follow-up to The Long Halloween. It’s an epic and lengthy tale which begins in August and runs a full year. It will include appearances by a newly appointed Commissioner Gordon, a newly appointed DA Janice Porter, an escaped Two-Face, and a host of rogues. When I originally constructed my timeline, I questioned Dark Victory‘s canonical status, but if there was any doubt, it was erased by Tony Daniel’s Batman #692 which clearly references the events of Dark Victory.
  5. [5]COLLIN COLSHER: Armageddon Inferno is a strange one, requiring some important retcons in order for it to make sense on our timeline. In this story, Waverunner sends different heroes across time. However, any references to the real life coup against Mikhail Gorbachev from August 21, 1991 must be ignored. I’ve kept the August 21 date, but this event has to take place in 1992 at the earliest since a rookie Creeper is present. Also, Batman is aware that the Creeper, unlike himself, has not been sent backward through time. Oddly, though, Batman assumes that the Creeper has been sent forward in time, but that would be totally unnecessary. Since Waverider decided not to use a future Creeper for this mission, he would undoubtedly have chosen to use present day Creeper. (The Batman Chronology Project assumes/fanwanks that Waverunner does indeed use present day Creeper—otherwise, the Creeper’s debut would have to go earlier or this item would have to go later.) Although, none of this explains why Waverider didn’t then also just use present day 1992 Batman for this mission. Sigh. We’ve already put way too much thought into this.
  6. [6]RENAUD BATTAIL: In Dark Victory #2, Bruce says to Alfred he wanted to reveal his secret ID to Harvey Dent, and that Alfred and Harvey would have been the only two to know his secret. However, this is incorrect as Leslie Thompkins would have already known Bruce’s secret as well.

19 Responses to Modern YEAR FOUR

  1. Fabio says:

    Great TRBCP’s staff, 🙂
    I am an Italian guy (for this reason, please forgive my lame english) who is following you from almost a year! Leaving out the obvious and deserved congratulations for the glorious work done on these pages, I’ve some questions about the continuity… more specifically about a character, Harvey Bullock.

    Looking at your list, you’ve suggested to “delete” from the telling of some stories (“Catwoman: Year One” and “Two-Face: Year One”, this latest is considered by you out-of-continuity) elements relating this character; details such as the appearance or the assignment of the degree of detective, who had not yet happened.
    In this regard, I would ask you: where would you place the appearance of Bullock in the chronology of events? And his “promotion” as a Detective? Exist some contemporary tales that tell (or re-tell) these two facts? And if not, why shouldn’t you considered in continuity the two notes that I mentioned? They contradict some statement read in other stories (if yes, what stories)?

    I apologize for the length of the message and the number of these very-nerdy-requests… I hope to be answered. 😛

    Greetings from the land of Pizza, Pasta, Tomatoes… and Carmine Falcone, of course!

    • Collin Colsher says:

      Hi Fabio! Thanks for the high praise. I’d pat my “staff” on the back, but this project only has a staff of one; me!

      I’m glad you reminded me about Harvey Bullock in the Modern Age. His first appearance is in Batman: Legends of the Dark Knight #105, which occurs in Modern Age Year Two. I had neglected to include this issue since Batman does not appear in it. However, it is super important and does make mention of what Batman is doing at the time, so I have now included it. When Bullock debuts, he is already a sergeant, but not yet a detective. Thus, his appearances in Catwoman: Year One and Two Face: Year One where he is a full-fledged detective cannot be canon. Later, in Year Seven, I have placed the troublesome Scott Snyder flashback from Detective Comics #875, which despite its own flawed continuity, contains a canonical reference to “Officer Bullock.” Obviously, Bullock is still a sergeant at this point (Year Seven), but since we next see Bullock as a Detective in Nightwing: Year One (Modern Age Year Ten), we can assume that Bullock is promoted sometime in Year Seven (or possibly Eight or Nine or Ten, if you prefer).

      Hope this answers your questions! My Italian isn’t so hot, but grazie mille!

      Best,

      Collin C

  2. Thanks for giving me reason to re-read the long unfinished All-Star B&R. Here’s my better response: There’s no way this is canon for the mainstream DCU timeline, nor could it ever be. If you’d like to know why, I’ll give you the long long very long list. 🙂

    Although, now that I’m reading your comment again I’m not sure if that is what you were suggesting in the first place. Was it?

  3. Jack James says:

    Sorry for bothering you again with this Collin, but checking this out again I honestly feel that the new placement of Batman: Year Two is even messier.

    While it is true that Selina and Bruce’s relationship is probably more than likely extremely sexual in nature, it is also true that it definitely reads like they’re genuinely dating one another with some sentimental value attached to it. I mean, in July 4th of this very same year, you had that moment where Bruce and Selina are at Wayne Manor and she discusses with him the idea of getting out of Gotham together as they both embrace in a kiss, that definitely doesn’t read to me like merely a casual relationship, so to think that later on in the middle of that same narrative Bruce would get a fiancee still doesn’t seem to quite fit to me, especially since it’s kinda insane to think that Batman would be dealing with the Reaper and with a fiancee right in the middle of the whole Holiday and Harvey Dent business, certainly crazier things have happened to him, but it still feels off.

    This leaves us with several options:

    1. Putting it back to where you had it originally in Year Five, but with a caveat: put the Batman #600 flashback where Selina is yelling at him right before it and make a note that they later on somehow reconcile before Dark Victory.

    2. Putting it in Year 2 and 3 and ignore Leslie Thompkin’s participation in regards to knowing Batman’s identity in the story. It’s true she was a big part of it, but so was Joe Chill, so the story has already been chopped up into being mostly references so it actually doesn’t feel that off.

    3. Put it in Year 2 or 3 and move the “Faith” storyline earlier somehow.

    • Jack James says:

      Also I’d personally lean more towards option 2.
      The most fleshed-out account we have of what “Year Two” would actually look like canon wise was on The Batman Files, in which only Bruce’s proposal to Rachel, and the whole deal with the Reaper is mentioned, so on this chronology’s version of Year Two, Leslie doesn’t /have/ to know Bruce is Batman anymore than Joe Chill making an appearance, so it’d be one of those stories where only the most basic elements remain.

      • Thanks for the notes, Jack. I’ve always fought hard to keep the canonicity of the first issue intact, but I think you are right. The story was made non-canon and then later referenced, so it really should just be reference material based on yes Batman Files, but more primarily DC Retroactive. Leslie makes her presence felt in the latter, so you know she was a part of the original, but it doesn’t have to be before she knew Bruce’s secret. I’ll go ahead and make this move—I think Year Three works best, since part of “Batman Year Two” is about the brand new Wayne Foundation, which is why Leslie is even involved in the first place.

  4. Milo says:

    Should the flashback from Batman #673 go after Dark Victory #11, in which Batman says he hasn’t found his parents’ killer?

  5. I know this topic has long been debated by now, but I really think Turning Points #1 would work much better late in Year 1, likely a few weeks after Batman saves Gordon’s kid. So much is in favor of this, Batman and Gordon’s fresh alliance, Gordon’s recent promotion to Captain, Harvey before being Two-Face, and the clear inspiration both in art and dialogue from Year One.

    So, if the only trouble continuity-wise is Barbara’s petition for divorce, can’t that be overlooked a bit? Not sure on the legality of this, but could the petition be annulled shortly afterwards by Barbara? And if not, Can’t we just pretend Barbara only left a letter asking Jim for a divorce? Further to this point, this petition seems to come as a consequence of Jim’s affair with Sarah, which would make little sense in Year 4.

    IMO, this explanation seems to jump through fewer hoops than placing it around Dark Victory.

    • Whoops, forgot to mention. And as for Barbara’s later appearances with Jim, one could just assume they reconciled shortly after, wouldn’t be the first time.

    • Hey Marcelo, to be clear, I don’t place it at all, as I’ve long regarded it as non-canon. I merely have the debut of Corbett here. And yes, the main reason I’ve always regarded it as canon is because I’ve always read it as a Gordon divorce story (but one set way too early). So your fanwank of it being a temporary thing—she files for divorce and goes to Chicago, but then they reconcile… it definitely works, but I’m just not sure that was the intention of the writer. But as I said, your fanwank works if we add that bit of narrative. I’ll take another look at this one and get back to you. Might add it in, who knows! Thanks!

  6. Hello again, Collin! Regarding the flashback in Joker’s Asylum II: Riddler #1, don’t know if there’s something that could contradict this but the Batman in that story seems to be Dick Grayson, wearing his post Final Crisis Batman costume. Also, although as you said Joker’s the definition of an unreliable narrator, Ra’s, Deadshot, Harley and Bane appear in the flashback, further indicating that if this happened it was waaay further in the timeline.

    Also, saw the change to Turning Points #1, thanks!

    • Yeah, this definitely takes place later, as this is Dick as Batman. Some likely errors arise, but all can be chalked up to Joker as unreliable narrator. Will definitely move!

  7. Bardia says:

    Hey collin. Can we assume the events of legends of the dark knight annual 2 where Arnold flass kidnaps James Gordon jr as canon or at least semi canonical? that story happens when Batman is wearing his yellow oval custom however that must be ignored because if we consider those events to be canon, it should take place before Dark victory and flass’s death where Batman is still wearing his original custom. the DC wiki page for Arnold flass mentions both event of lotdk annual 2 and dark victory in his page, and it claims that both events actually happened. so I think we can consider lotdk annual 2 as canon if we only assume that it takes place before dark victory. I don’t know if you mentioned that story somewhere in your website or not.

    • I think the DC Wikia Page is trying to have its cake and eat it too here. And I think they are wrong about this one. Dark Victory clearly retcons all the Arnold Flass stuff. LOTDK Annual #2 clearly occurs in Year Thirteen—it’s not a Year Four story and was never meant to be. I already have a note about LOTDK Annual #2 in Year Thirteen, but I’ll add more to it now. Thanks!

  8. Dylan Hall says:

    I thought the encounter with Milo occurred while Robin was active.

  9. Stephen Smith says:

    How do we know that “Bad Cop” takes place in Year 4? Is it Barbara’s age that places it here? The age could be a mistake for the timeline.

    So, Joker has spent the last two years roughly psychologically torturing him until he finally snaps and escapes.

    I see the Joker torturing the guy for up to 6 months maximum. No way he could have survived Arkham for 2 years or waited that long.

    • Good Cop Bad Cop is mega-garbage continuity-wise, just like its predecessor (“Do You Understand These Rights?”). Honestly, I’d like to chuck it in the bin. It’s written more-or-less as a direct follow up to “Do You Understand These Rights?” but that doesn’t make any sense at all for various reasons, as I’ll explain below.

      The main reason I have it in Y4 is mainly because the story revolves around Babs already living with Jim Gordon in Gotham (she’s even calling him dad at this point). We are never told her age. Gordon is referred to as lieutenant and Loeb is even still commissioner! None of this jibes. There’s also nothing that says how long Joker had been messing with Shancoe. And we know that Joker was in-and-out of Arkham. In any case, I do think the story could go a bit earlier. And it definitely needs more notation as to why I have it where it is (and about it’s piss poor continuity).

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